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I live in the highest rent area for many miles around. Resort town. Plenty of $600 apartments here. I lived in a 2 bd 2ba condo that was $550 3 years ago before I bought a house. There are many towns that are cheaper than this.
This should be pretty obvious but I guess it needs stating. The BI isn't going to pay for you to live and not work in a fashionable, big city, high rent area. If that is where you want to be, then you need to get a job.
There is nowhere with in 50 miles of me in any direction with rent that's sub 1500 for a unit that size.
If you can't set up a plan to replace to OASI with Basic Income, then it just isn't going to work.
The nature of Basic Income is such that it would be in addition to the OASI. Because, Basic Income can't have any qualifications, or it would not be Basic Income. Therefore, receiving OASI can't disqualify people from receiving Basic Income. OASI is something you earn from a lifetime of work. Not something that can be replaced by welfare.
I live in the highest rent area for many miles around. Resort town. Plenty of $600 apartments here. I lived in a 2 bd 2ba condo that was $550 3 years ago before I bought a house. There are many towns that are cheaper than this.
This should be pretty obvious but I guess it needs stating. The BI isn't going to pay for you to live and not work in a fashionable, big city, high rent area. If that is where you want to be, then you need to get a job.
In Washington, DC the only way you'd find that is in one of the super-dangerous neighborhoods in Southeast DC, and even then I think it will be higher on the rent.
And good luck finding 3 other people willing to live with you in a 2-bedroom apartment.*
The other issue is that landlords are NOT willing to let you "rent 1/4 of the apartment" - rather, they want all of the tenants to be jointly responsible for the ENTIRE rent. This leaves you financially vulnerable to defaulting roommates (Ask me how I know about this problem - I have had to pick up parts of roommates' bills before...)
To avoid this, you have to rent a room. Not "half a room", but a full room.
"Adult dormitories" don't exist around here.
*the post you linked to earlier mentions $600 rent and $200 utilities being $200/person, which implies a total of 4 people in the apt.
I live in the highest rent area for many miles around. Resort town. Plenty of $600 apartments here. I lived in a 2 bd 2ba condo that was $550 3 years ago before I bought a house. There are many towns that are cheaper than this.
This should be pretty obvious but I guess it needs stating. The BI isn't going to pay for you to live and not work in a fashionable, big city, high rent area. If that is where you want to be, then you need to get a job.
So we're going to move 50 million poor people to New Mexico where apartments are $600? Brilliant! You can have every Section 8 person in my state. We'd be happy to only have to pay $600/month to foist them off on you. Is heroin cheap there too?
I live in the highest rent area for many miles around. Resort town. Plenty of $600 apartments here. I lived in a 2 bd 2ba condo that was $550 3 years ago before I bought a house. There are many towns that are cheaper than this.
This should be pretty obvious but I guess it needs stating. The BI isn't going to pay for you to live and not work in a fashionable, big city, high rent area. If that is where you want to be, then you need to get a job.
If bus loads of basic incomers arrive driving up demand for these $600 a month apartments, what do you suppose will happen to the rental rates? And unless my math is incorrect $8,000 - (12 x $600) = $800. WOW. You can pay your utilities, buy food, get medical care, pay for transportation and cloth yourself for only $800 annually? Sure you can.
If bus loads of basic incomers arrive driving up demand for these $600 a month apartments, what do you suppose will happen to the rental rates? And unless my math is incorrect $8,000 - (12 x $600) = $800. WOW. You can pay your utilities, buy food, get medical care, pay for transportation and cloth yourself for only $800 annually? Sure you can.
Sadly none of these BI proponents have actually calculated the true cost of basic necessities.
They are all just quoting figures from articles.
Just taking people off medicaid alone and making them buy ACA would cost $3600($300/month premium) +$6850 (out of pocket for 2016) = $10,450. And that is for a single person.
That $8K a year is rubbish. You're looking at $30-35K a year for a BI that removes welfare.
If bus loads of basic incomers arrive driving up demand for these $600 a month apartments, what do you suppose will happen to the rental rates? And unless my math is incorrect $8,000 - (12 x $600) = $800. WOW. You can pay your utilities, buy food, get medical care, pay for transportation and cloth yourself for only $800 annually? Sure you can.
He's going to stack them up 4 per apartment so the per-person cost is $150. With ACA, Medicaid is free so health care magically has no cost. It would bankrupt the state of New Mexico since they pay almost half the Medicaid bill. My state would be delighted to make it New Mexico's problem since 1/3 of the state budget is now Medicaid. Warm up those buses. We've solved my state's budget problems.
He's going to stack them up 4 per apartment so the per-person cost is $150. With ACA, Medicaid is free so health care magically has no cost. It would bankrupt the state of New Mexico since they pay almost half the Medicaid bill. My state would be delighted to make it New Mexico's problem since 1/3 of the state budget is now Medicaid. Warm up those buses. We've solved my state's budget problems.
When BI is implemented all welfare programs cease to exist.
So there is no more medicaid.
He's going to stack them up 4 per apartment so the per-person cost is $150. With ACA, Medicaid is free so health care magically has no cost. It would bankrupt the state of New Mexico since they pay almost half the Medicaid bill. My state would be delighted to make it New Mexico's problem since 1/3 of the state budget is now Medicaid. Warm up those buses. We've solved my state's budget problems.
That sounds...... awful. And a recipe for a wonderfully crime ridden neighborhood. Yes, let's bring back ghettos to warehouse the poor. What could possibly go wrong?
That sounds...... awful. And a recipe for a wonderfully crime ridden neighborhood. Yes, let's bring back ghettos to warehouse the poor. What could possibly go wrong?
Turn all SFH into boarding houses.
Yeah..that will bring "prosperity" to America won't it ?
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