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Old 04-08-2009, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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My question is....how does you child even get ahold of these "entirely too skimpy" outfits in the first place?
The skimpy outfits are strictly for summertime wear only...and she knows that. I'm not talking about string bikini's mind you. I'm just referring to tank tops and summer time shorts. These items, while acceptable in public, do not fit the school dress code which clearly states that no tank tops are allowed and all shorts must extend below fingertips. We make our kids follow the school dress code to the letter.
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Old 04-08-2009, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Bay Area
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Our daughter's school (private) has a strict dress code, and clothing comes from a local uniform shop so there are no issues or options. On the weekends I couldnt care less what she wears, she is sensible enough to make her own choices, and quite frankly living in FL where its hot most of the time, I don't blame her for wearing minis and such. I've seen older women raise a brow and to that I give them a dirty look, its usually women who are too out of shape to get away with such clothes!
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Old 04-08-2009, 10:21 AM
 
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It's not just the students - have you seen how some of the parents dress these days!

It's the trashy sex-obsessed culture we've been reduced to in America. It's all over the TV, internet, media. The Abercrombie and Fitch ads are a good example. Sex sells. Shock value sells. And young people are followers - they'll wear what they see. Very few young people have the maturity and self confidence to dress modestly or appropriately when it has become the norm to dress trashy and exploit yourself. It's human nature to want to move in packs. Even those who consider themselves "outcasts" or "loners" are conforming to that stereotypical image as well.

And it's not just TV and the media... I feel, too, that we as a culture are neglected. We are lacking community, families have disintegrated. Most of us did not receive enough attention from caring adults when we were kids. And kids today are not receiving enough attention and care from those who are supposed to be there to guide and care for them. The break-down of the family, and the insular attitudes and lifestyles of most Americans, contributes to the way many of us are presenting ourselves. We are starved for attention. Also, because we were never shown respect, true respect, we have little if any respect for ourselves or others. It's all become about - how can I attract attention? How can I become powerful? Sex is powerful. Image is powerful. Young people are not stupid.
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Old 04-08-2009, 01:48 PM
 
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There's a couple ways to look at that. If a young girl wants people to stare, they do, but a girl wearing her skirt up to her butt has absolutely no place to complain, because she wears it that short intentionally KNOWING people will look. Now, I would think fathers in particular (because fathers know what is in the minds of most men and young boys (they're going to look)) would make SURE his daughter is dressed appropriately, even if mothers are permissive.

Had you asked me that question about looking, I'd say you're darn right I looked. I wouldn't be embarrassed about it. If a girl's panties are there to look at, people are going to look.

If people don't like to be looked at, or don't like people gawking, they should wear something less revealing.
By the time parents get there if they are called in the skirt is not as on the waist line and thus is not as short on the legs. What would be funny is if administrators or teachers started taking pictures to show parents. Now we all know how that would play out in this era of sexting. When you progress from how they are dressed to their attitude about showing their body in public you are moving into another arena. We know how sensitive many parents are to sexuality and school curriuculum discussion. Probably the best way to avoid this is to send your kid to private school or home instruct them and avoid the depravity that seems to be rampant in public schools.
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Old 04-08-2009, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY
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When I was in high school (not as long ago as I sometimes make it seem) dress codes were there but not always enforced. Girls were wearing practically nothing, guys had pants down to their knees, and a large number of students had a habit of showing up to school and not bothering to get dressed (they'd wear pajama bottoms and *slippers*) and sweat pants with often inappropriate things written across the seat.

My Junior year the school got a new dean and banned pants with words on the seats, slippers and pajama pants and stuff and he told the students that if they're not going to get dressed properly for school then he didn't want to see them showing up at all.

Large chains, straps and spikes were banned as well but some students *cough*myself*cough* wore them anyways and never got in trouble or had any issues with it other than occasionally getting caught on desks and chairs.
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Old 04-08-2009, 08:11 PM
 
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Also, because we were never shown respect, true respect, we have little if any respect for ourselves or others. It's all become about - how can I attract attention? How can I become powerful? Sex is powerful. Image is powerful. Young people are not stupid.
It has to start somewhere. Respect is earned, not automatic. It's difficult to have respect for someone who doesn't have respect for themselves or acts respectably.

I do agree that sex and image is powerful, but kids need to understand that you can't be an individual if you follow the pack. You can't be different by looking like everybody else.
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Old 04-08-2009, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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I've seen older women raise a brow and to that I give them a dirty look, its usually women who are too out of shape to get away with such clothes!
I am speechless by your statement.

Older women frown because they were raised in a time when children were not advertising for sexual predators.

In my freshmen year of college I used to wear short shorts until one day in the library a weird older guy followed me around. I noticed he was looking at me so I moved. A few minutes later he strolled to where I was at. Again I moved. Again he followed. I asked one of my friends to drive me somewhere before going home. Who knows what could have happened if I hadn't noticed him and he had followed to the bus to see where I lived.

Since you do not care the attention your daughter is attracting, I hope you at least teach her to be aware of possible rapists around her.
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Old 04-08-2009, 09:33 PM
 
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It's the trashy sex-obsessed culture we've been reduced to in America. It's all over the TV, internet, media. The Abercrombie and Fitch ads are a good example. Sex sells.
Sex sells fashion. And yes, our culture as a whole is influenced by sex.

But ultimately it's the parent's who purchase and allow those fashions to displayed on their sons and daughters. It is the teachers and administrators who allow it to be displayed in public schools. I remember when I was in high school (2001-2005) there were few teachers who had the guts to speak up and be strict about what student fashions they would allow into their classroom...the rest, well, obviously didn't care.


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When I was in high school (not as long ago as I sometimes make it seem) dress codes were there but not always enforced. Girls were wearing practically nothing, guys had pants down to their knees, and a large number of students had a habit of showing up to school and not bothering to get dressed (they'd wear pajama bottoms and *slippers*) and sweat pants with often inappropriate things written across the seat.

Large chains, straps and spikes were banned as well but some students *cough*myself*cough* wore them anyways and never got in trouble or had any issues with it other than occasionally getting caught on desks and chairs.
I remember there were numerous times I got one of my spiked bracelets taken away from me in high school. I made a stink about it I remember being infuriated how my classmates could dress like scumbags in their pajamas & slippers, or some chick in her latest outfit from the stripper store, or some ghetto fab dude displaying the curvature of his @ss cheeks through a fine layer of jersey knit boxer briefs....but almighty School Board forbid if I had a measly bracelet with dull spikes. Ya know, all 100lbs of me probably coulda seriously hurt somebody with that thing!
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Old 04-08-2009, 09:36 PM
 
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Older women frown because they were raised in a time when children were not advertising for sexual predators.

Since you do not care the attention your daughter is attracting, I hope you at least teach her to be aware of possible rapists around her.
Preach it sista'! Hahaha. Unfortunately, these are the types of parents who probably aren't making their kids aware of how prevalent these predators are. My mom and my aunt made me paranoid about them, literally. ahaha
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Old 04-08-2009, 09:41 PM
 
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I worked at a private school for a couple years, and it had a very strict (and strictly-enforced) dress code. Boys had to wear belts and their slacks could NOT hang low. Once in a while, one of the lads would come to school with his boxers showing and he would be promptly ushered into an Administrator's office where he was given a pair of bright red suspenders to wear for the remainder of the school day. It was rare that a boy forgot his belt twice .....
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