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Michigan does not have a runoff; candidates can win with a plurality of votes. Votes are cast and machinne-counted on punch cards (each voting booth and absentee ballot is provided a stylus for punching ballots).
There is an open primary with no party registration; voters choose the party primary in which they vote, but of course they can't vote in both parties' primaries. There's nothing stopping them fromm actually casting votes in both primaries but that creates a 'spoiled ballot' which the computer (counting the ballots) detects, causing all partisan primary votes to be invalid and thus not counted (votes for nonpartisan candidates are counted).
The ballot includes both parties and their respective candidates; only the voter knows which party's primary they voted.
A lot of partisan primary ballots (~5 - ~30 percent) are spoiled - people trying to vote in both parties' primaries - especially in Detroit.
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This whole thread was started with a link to The National Report, an online spoof newspaper that is on par with The Onion. And the only other place any of this "breaking news" appears is on a right wing blog, The Gateway Pundit, which has posted this "news" without citing a single official source. Any other reference to this "breaking story" is just other right wing blogs picking up The Gateway Pundit story and reposting it.
Not a single real news source is reporting any of this, not a single official from Mississippi has made a statement, there isn't even a statement or press release from the McDaniel camp. Just one rightwing blog and a satire piece. In other words, there's no story here.
^This. There is no compelling evidence that people who voted for a Democrat on June 3rd then voted for Cochran on the 24th. If (probably not when) there is, though I'll wait for it, then let's discuss.
This is about McDaniel and Cochran, not the Democrats.
It's about Democrats voting illegally to steal an election.
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If the state of Mississippi had wanted to enforce this law, they probably should have done it in the first place (like Washington used to do when we had primaries). If you voted in one, and then went to the polling place to vote in the runoff after having already voted for the other party, your name would already be marked on the voter rolls as having voted, so you couldn't vote.
Yeah, well that didn't happen. In 1,000+ cases in one county, alone.
You are making the assumption that there were illegal votes. No proof of that.
Actually, there is. The Democratic Poll Books from each precinct contain the proof. All who are marked as voting in both elections are illegal votes.
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But it would be interesting to see if election officials (with obvious Cochran ties) allowed improper voting.
There may be another reason for that. There was some race-baiting agitation committed by the Cochran campaign. Basically said McDaniel's campaign would try to stop Blacks from voting in the runoff. Poll workers may have let some people illegally vote twice in a misguided irrational response to that. Purposely deceptive psychological manipulation is never a good idea, and this tactic upped the egregiousness of it by playing the race card. http://images.dailykos.com/images/90...jpg?1403666295
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Probably the best way for the state to settle this would be to have another election.
Election fraud is a federal offense. People need to go to jail for this.
If enough votes that exceed Cochran's margin of victory are deemed to be illegal, then a new election can be ordered. The votes can't be subtracted from Cochran because there is no proof of who these individuals voted for, only that they should not have been allowed to vote at all.
This should have been stopped at the poll locations. What a mess.
If enough votes that exceed Cochran's margin of victory are deemed to be illegal, then a new election can be ordered. The votes can't be subtracted from Cochran because there is no proof of who these individuals voted for, only that they should not have been allowed to vote at all.
This should have been stopped at the poll locations.
It was in one person's case, reported by the Clarion-Ledger:
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"...voter Annette Harper came to the precinct this afternoon looking to vote, but was told she couldn't vote because her name was on the Democratic poll book as voting in the June 3 Democratic primary"
Unfortunately that seems to not be the case in many polling places.
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What a mess.
Indeed. Given the race-baiting flyer I posted the link to, it could very well turn out that someone incited Blacks to commit voter fraud on a massive scale, and that they did so. Then what?
Pete Perry, the Hinds County Republican Executive Committee chairman, is starting to panic. He has referenced Democratic Poll Book pages in which mistakes were legitimately made, but in those cases the June 3rd entry was crossed out and initialed by a poll worker.
The ledger is reporting that the Tea Party is investigating. That much is true.
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Pete Perry, the Hinds County Republican Executive Committee chairman, is starting to panic.
And now we're off in IC's fantasy world. I watched the video. He's not panicking, he is resigned to let the Tea Party do their investigation, even though they are including numbers that they know aren't valid. He said "If they want to try to prove it, fine. They'll just show they're ignorant." That probably sums it up nicely.
I urge everyone to watch the video in IC's link. Perry shows what it would look like if a Democrat had voted in the June 3rd primary, and the column that would be marked in. Because so few Democrats voted in that primary, that column was empty in most cases, and the poll workers mistakenly started using that column in the beginning of the day. They found their mistake and corrected it. Had the voter voted on June 3rd, that column wouldn't have been blank to begin with so they wouldn't have been able to make that mistake. The fact that it was blank to begin with is the proof that voter didn't vote in the Democratic primary. Those are the numbers the Tea Party is counting as "irregular."
I look forward to watching the battle continue. It's fun watching the GOP fighting itself.
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