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Old 02-02-2016, 05:46 AM
 
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Only one state has voted and people are trying to wrap this up by saying that Trump is done. This is not over. The way I see it Cruz will not win in either New Hampshire nor South Carolina and it is very possible that neither Trump nor Rubio will be able to win both of those states. After South Carolina you might have each of the top three contenders each carrying a state going into Nevada.
I think the issue here is Trump was polling with a lead in Iowa, however when it came time to actually look at the results he lost. It's one thing to poll well, but that doesn't mean anything if you can't get people to actually go to the caucus and support you. I think this has shown that Trump has an army of armchair "patriots". They don't actually care enough to turn out for him.

New Hampshire should be interesting, but from what I've seen the farther west you go the more Trump has been snubbed.

 
Old 02-02-2016, 05:46 AM
 
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"Tonight, Iowa has proclaimed to the world". . .Ted Cruz, lmao
"Can I get an Amen?"

Mick
 
Old 02-02-2016, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Hillary lost big time.

Failure to not beat Bernie soundly says a lot about the distrust people have in her.
It says a lot about the strength of the millennial vote. They will be behind her in November.
 
Old 02-02-2016, 05:47 AM
 
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I called the Iowa vote correctly. I am batting 1000, so far.

calling Iowa for Cruz is not putting a flag on the moon.......Cruz is the best preacher out of that group.....look at the past winners....Huckabee and Santorum.


it was going to come down to Cruz or Trump...that's 50-50 there.



Just like next week, Trump will win N.H. and the question is who is going to come 2nd and 3rd.
 
Old 02-02-2016, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Huge loss for Hillary.

Failure to not blow out a 74 YO washed up Socialist says a lot about how people don't like and don't trust her.

Go Bernie Go.
Clinton definitely needs to worry, particularly if the demos hold as noted below:

"Six in 10 Democratic caucus-goers wanted a candidate who would continue Obama's policies. Young voters overwhelmingly backed Sanders, with more than 8 in 10 caucus-goers under the age or 30 backing the Vermont senator. Clinton won the majority of voters over age 45."

Iowa caucuses: Sanders, Clinton deadlocked; Cruz wins | abc11.com

2008 redux.
 
Old 02-02-2016, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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calling Iowa for Cruz is not putting a flag on the moon.......Cruz is the best preacher out of that group.....look at the past winners....Huckabee and Santorum.


it was going to come down to Cruz or Trump...that's 50-50 there.



Just like next week, Trump will win N.H. and the question is who is going to come 2nd and 3rd.
Rubio could win NH, though time is short for the momentum wave out of Iowa to cross over that state.
 
Old 02-02-2016, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Sanders took on Hillary's corporate money, being almost totally ignored by the media, and the entire DNC political machine that Debbie Wasserman Schultz tried her damnedest to rig for Hillary and came out four state delegates behind Hillary out of better than 1,400. O'Malley took 2.28 delegates, and "undecided" took 46.

Bernies showing was strong as death, and he can probably look for another couple of million dollars in donations today. In addition to that, he is controlling the dialogue of the Democratic Party. I'd say Bernie hit a homer.

The political revolution is not being reported in the mainstream media. Social media and the most incredible grassroots campaigning in years is changing the face of politics in the U.S. as we have known it.
 
Old 02-02-2016, 05:51 AM
 
Location: DFW
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It says a lot about the strength of the millennial vote. They will be behind her in November.
Maybe but they are pretty much Anti-Hillary right now. I can see many switching over to Trump if he's the R candidate.

Those young Millennials appear to trust her the least. She represents the old Washington establishment more than any candidate.
 
Old 02-02-2016, 05:52 AM
 
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Things are looking much, much better for Republicans this morning. Trump is over and Cruz will be taken out soon too. Clinton did poorly against a guy she should have blown away. Rubio has to be the favorite for the nomination on the R side. Clinton's very poor showing against an unknown socialist can't inspire confidence that the Dems will hold the White House this fall against Rubio.
I agree, in that Marco presents the worst possible match up for Hillary in my opinion. She would do fine with Cruz and Trump, IMHO. But let's not have a premature ejaculation for Marco yet, he came (no pun intended) in third in Iowa of all places.

Contrary to the right-wing belief, people actually vote for Sanders, not against Hillary. Tens of thousands of enthusiastic people would not go to his rallies if he only represents an alternative to Hillary.

Mick
 
Old 02-02-2016, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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not really, after N.H. next week and then South Carolina, everybody would have forgotten Iowa and Cruz win in IOWA doesn't mean anything if he doesn't win in the next primaries.
I am not a Cruz supporter as most know, in fact I really do not like him at all, but don't be so sure this week and next week make no difference. As I said, it will start the ball rolling. No, neither Cruz nor Rubio have to win NH, Trump has to do fantastic to make a difference. If he starts slipping he will do more attacking and people will get sick of it. Not to mention, the media attention will quickly switch.

Let's just say, regardless as to what happens from here on out, right now, Trump was the big loser last night. I would think even his staunch supporters like you would have to admit it was a bit of a surprise and yes, a downer for your candidate. No one is claiming it is over for any of the three, just a Trump set back.
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