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How does Trump know ahead of time that any future law Congress or the states may pass criminalizing abortion would not provide for prosecuting the woman as well?
If you believe that abortion is murder then yes there should be very serious consequences including murder charges on the person who has the abortion.
If you believe that abortion is murder then how can you think otherwise?
Indeed, also where do the exceptions for rape, incest and life of the mother come from? Not the Bible. If it's a murder, it's a murder. String 'em up.
If it's "illegal" that usually means there will be a punishment. Or should we not enforce the law?
A man cannot force a woman to get an abortion, just as he cannot force a woman to keep the unborn child, so even if he's encouraging he's not breaking the law, the woman is by getting an illegal abortion and I guess the person giving her an abortion is also breaking the law.
So your 'beef' is the legality/illegality' of abortions, Trump just said a truism. If you break the law = you get punished.
Sorry if someone already pointed out the obvious.
Didn't read the whole thread, did you?
As was discussed above, as far as anyone here can tell, it was never illegal to receive an abortion, yet Trump said a woman who received one should be (now walking it back, apparently.)
This man just alienated many social liberals who would have voted for him. This comment of his disgusts me more than probably any other thing he has said.
Apparently, no one in the Trump camp knows how Constitutional Law works. The only way to take away a woman's choice (i.e., Roe v. Wade) is by the SCOTUS overruling the case (not possible with a 4-4 deadlock now, and not gonna happen anyway), or by a Constitutional amendment, which is almost impossible.
Trump has backtracked - only charge the doctor not the woman.
"If Congress were to pass legislation making abortion illegal and the federal courts upheld this legislation, or any state were permitted to ban abortion under state and federal law, the doctor or any other person performing this illegal act upon a woman would be held legally responsible, not the woman. The woman is a victim in this case as is the life in her womb. My position has not changed — like Ronald Reagan, I am pro-life with exceptions."
Trumpettes are still under the delusion that this circus clown has a viable path to the presidency, and that his countless gaffes are all part of his "master plan". Hilarious..
Trump has backtracked - only charge the doctor not the woman.
"If Congress were to pass legislation making abortion illegal and the federal courts upheld this legislation, or any state were permitted to ban abortion under state and federal law, the doctor or any other person performing this illegal act upon a woman would be held legally responsible, not the woman. The woman is a victim in this case as is the life in her womb. My position has not changed — like Ronald Reagan, I am pro-life with exceptions."
As was discussed above, as far as anyone here can tell, it was never illegal to receive an abortion, yet Trump said a woman who received one should be (now walking it back, apparently.)
It was illegal to perform an abortion.
Well if that's the case, and I don't know off the top of my head never looked into, then it should be changed. It's like charging a prostitute but not the John, or the drug dealer instead of the drug buyer... You need to punish both for it to be effective law.
Well if that's the case, and I don't know off the top of my head never looked into, then it should be changed. It's like charging a prostitute but not the John, or the drug dealer instead of the drug buyer... You need to punish both for it to be effective law.
Your opinion.
One that is not shared even by many pro-life folks.
I would think that a person who wants to inflict a legal punishment someone for something might want to actually "look into" it - since I am quite sure you would rightfully squall if some punishment were inflicted on you by someone who hadn't "looked into" it.
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