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Old 08-05-2016, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Sitting on a bar stool. Guinness in hand.
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if you waste your vote on stein, you're putting our country in danger, i'm holding you personally responsible for the next tragedy that happens on hillary's watch after jan 20.

you don't want that on your watch or conscience, do you?
And we care if you blame us.....because?????

I'm not voting this time around for anyone because no one deserves it. Doesn't bother my conscience. And something tells me a lot of other folks are not bothered either. So walk.
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Old 08-06-2016, 04:01 PM
 
Location: PHX -> ATL
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Well, you can call me done, since you're impugning my character.
I never said you were getting paid but that you were obviously supporting the inhumane and unethical corporate greed in the pharmaceutical industry. It shouldn't be considered "anti-vax" to be against having those same unethical people running the FDA which is supposed to be an unbiased regulatory agency created for our safety. The FDA should not be controlled by lobbying and have pharmaceutical employees and Monsanto employees implanted into their high-level roles to support this unethical control of our public safety. Obviously you are ok with corporations controlling everything in this country including our public health, which is completely immoral and unethical. Her argument was not anti-vax but anti-lobbying and you took it to mean anti-vax.


I'm not moving the goalposts. They have the same education. Stein did her undergrad and her medical degree at Harvard and went on to do an internal medicine residency, Dr. Marks did the same thing. You are just choosing to ignore parts of my posts in favor of your bias.


That's why vaccines are important, so that even infants who cannot be vaccinated yet can be safe from many diseases. But you are taking to mean an unbiased FDA as anti-vax which is why you are so DEAD WRONG.


I don't think you know anything about healthcare, I'm sure any doctor knows quite a bit more about vaccines than me or you. I think you refusing to refer to her as Dr. Stein is entirely disrespectful. She worked hard for her degree and treated and helped save the lives of many people as all doctors do. Vaccines have been around for quite some time, I'd argue her patients have been vaccinated at least a good amount of them therefore she should know about them to give her patients the best care. You CLAIM to have worked in the healthcare industry, you should know how important it is to know a patient's background history in healthcare while treating them. This includes vaccinations along with other medications, previous surgeries, and so on. You failing to address that very IMPORTANT connection says enough about your biased opinion. To treat her patients she would have needed to know about vaccinations especially if as you say it's important to the blood and cancer to have been as immune to infectious diseases as possible. So you obviously know nothing about healthcare and how they all tie in together.

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Old 08-06-2016, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Anyone who thinks because Jill Stein was an internal medicine doctor that she knows it all about vaccines and her word is the inerrant word of God on the subject should take a look at Ben Carson. Carson is a retired PEDIATRIC neurosurgeon, in other words, he actually worked with kids, unlike Stein. Early on, he stated his support for mandatory vaccination. Then, he pandered. He said some were unnecessary. Politics makes strange bedfellows, Ben Carson and Jill Stein. Who'd a thunk it?
BEN CARSON: Vaccinations are for the good of everyone - Washington Times
Ben Carson wrong on vaccine claim during second GOP debate | PolitiFact Georgia
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Old 08-06-2016, 05:16 PM
 
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And we care if you blame us.....because?????

I'm not voting this time around for anyone because no one deserves it. Doesn't bother my conscience. And something tells me a lot of other folks are not bothered either. So walk.

believe me, you don't want to be held personally responsible for tragedy, i'm going to hold you accountable if you vote for Hitlery, the queen of mean.
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Old 08-06-2016, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Somehow the Japanese decided otherwise, and decided to ban MMR, which is quite simply stupid medicine. Unfortunately, the hypochondriacs who are easily fooled by Big Pharma get to pass laws that mandate harmful drugs and at the same time protect Big Pharma. It's a world give mad.

The U.S, thanks to the hypochondriacs, have the absolutely worse medical system of all developed nations. We pay twice as much to die younger, and these hypochondriacs just won't give up drugging out babies, whose undeveloped immune systems are extremely vulnerable to these potent drugs, our children and now even adults. How does one escape this madness?

The people who are delivering this disgraceful health system somehow want to claim superior knowledge. To whom? They are wrecking everyone's health.
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Old 08-06-2016, 05:22 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Both Jill Stein and Gary Johnson are excellent alternatives to Hillary Clinton.

There is no alternative to Donald Trump anymore, not since Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, and Ben Carson dropped out.
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Old 08-06-2016, 05:25 PM
 
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Stein's Russian sympathies are creating some buzz now. She's pretty open about them.

She attended an anniversary dinner for RT (Russia Today network) in Russia in December 2015 with Putin and an ally of Trump's, Gen. Mike Flynn. She's said that Edward Snowden, now living in Russia, would be in her cabinet if she had the choice. She's criticized Ukraine over the Crimea, and her VP running mate Ajamu Baraka has spoken out to say Russia was unfairly blamed for the shooting down of that airliner over Ukraine in 2014. Coming up, Assange from Wikileaks is going to speak at a Stein event... it just keeps coming. Stein is worse than fringe, I don't know who in the U.S. would be a fan of this craziness. Weird as anything.

Here's Stein cheering for Putin and his regime:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3Qhx2ON8RE
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Old 08-06-2016, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Stein's Russian sympathies are creating some buzz now. She's pretty open about them.

She attended an anniversary dinner for RT (Russia Today network) in Russia in December 2015 with Putin and an ally of Trump's, Gen. Mike Flynn. She's said that Edward Snowden, now living in Russia, would be in her cabinet if she had the choice. She's criticized Ukraine over the Crimea, and her VP running mate Ajamu Baraka has spoken out to say Russia was unfairly blamed for the shooting down of that airliner over Ukraine in 2014. Coming up, Assange from Wikileaks is going to speak at a Stein event... it just keeps coming. Stein is worse than fringe, I don't know who in the U.S. would be a fan of this craziness. Weird as anything.
Anyone who doesn't make Billionaires aand Big Pharma super-rich is labeled as fringe by the Clintoids. Corrupt government, for Clintoids, is the beautiful mainstream of thought.
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Old 08-06-2016, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Stein's Russian sympathies are creating some buzz now. She's pretty open about them.

She attended an anniversary dinner for RT (Russia Today network) in Russia in December 2015 with Putin and an ally of Trump's, Gen. Mike Flynn. She's said that Edward Snowden, now living in Russia, would be in her cabinet if she had the choice. She's criticized Ukraine over the Crimea, and her VP running mate Ajamu Baraka has spoken out to say Russia was unfairly blamed for the shooting down of that airliner over Ukraine in 2014. Coming up, Assange from Wikileaks is going to speak at a Stein event... it just keeps coming. Stein is worse than fringe, I don't know who in the U.S. would be a fan of this craziness. Weird as anything.
Snowden is a traitor. He is the Benedict Arnold of the new millennium. I hope this is a smoke-screen but it cements me not voting for her.
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Old 08-06-2016, 05:31 PM
 
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Snowden is a traitor. He is the Benedict Arnold of the new millennium. I hope this is a smoke-screen but it cements me not voting for her.
It's very weird how first Trump and now Stein are huge fans of Putin. I never would've seen that coming in this election. Quite weird. Of all the international leaders to idolize, why him? Why the coincidence? Weird...
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