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Stein (I refuse to call her "doctor", BTW) hasn't worked in pediatrics since she did her rotation in medical school. I already explained, she had little reason to know much of anything about vaccines, and no reason to know anything about childhood vaccines. Here are some graphs about organic food consumption and autism. Coincidence? I think not! https://www.google.com/search?q=grap...w=1749&bih=831
Clearly I won't be sending Stein a thank you letter for the astonishing growth of chronic childhood syndromes. Do you figure maybe send it to Clinton instead? I mean someone needs to stop being so shy and take credit for the health of our children. One thing we know for sure, Big Pharma loves Clinton.
Tell you what. Why don't you fill your own body with drugs and let other people decide what they do to their own bodies. You understand the right to choose don't you? You know, Choice and all that? Or maybe not?
Clintonoids have an odd understanding of a Right to Choose.
Again, an odd over-reaction.
Not sure how you read my decision to not support Ms Stein based on my feelings about her vaccine stance as my somehow not allowing other people to make their own choices about their own bodies, but clearly this is a very hot issue for you.
So hot in fact, that it has produced some arguments that border on the hysteric.
If this is the level of critical thought that Stein's supporters exhibit, well, thanks for yet another reason not to vote for her.
Not sure how you read my decision to not support Ms Stein based on my feelings about her vaccine stance as my somehow not allowing other people to make their own choices about their own bodies, but clearly this is a very hot issue for you.
So hot in fact, that it has produced some arguments that border on the hysteric.
If this is the level of critical thought that Stein's supporters exhibit, well, thanks for yet another reason not to vote for her.
Not sure how you read my decision to not support Ms Stein based on my feelings about her vaccine stance as my somehow not allowing other people to make their own choices about their own bodies, but clearly this is a very hot issue for you.
So hot in fact, that it has produced some arguments that border on the hysteric.
If this is the level of critical thought that Stein's supporters exhibit, well, thanks for yet another reason not to vote for her.
Absolutely not the company I want to keep.
Richrf will just deflect this as the Steinbot that he is. He can't stand it when people give reasons to not vote green, let alone third party whether against the idea, the party policy or stances of candidates.
Richrf will just deflect this as the Steinbot that he is. He can't stand it when people give reasons to not vote green, let alone third party whether against the idea, the party policy or stances of candidates.
What I can't stand are people who support corruption. You can blame it on my parents who taught me about caring for my fellow human beings.
Don't break your neck falling off your high horse.
Stein is pandering. She's not talking about ethics. She knows that vaccines are safe and effective.
I'm on firm ground. If some find themselves looking up it might be because they are so low.
You see, neither Clinton nor her supporters care about our disgraceful health system that has the lowest life expectancy at the highest cost of any developed main - by far. What they care about is MONEY. An absolute disgrace.
As I said elsewhere, beneficiaries of corruption tend to be the biggest cheerleaders for more corruption.
I'm on firm ground. If some find themselves looking up it might be because they are so low.
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Originally Posted by richrf
I'm on firm ground. If some find themselves looking up it might be because they are so low.
You see, neither Clinton nor her supporters care about our disgraceful health system that has the lowest life expectancy at the highest cost of any developed main - by far. What they care about is MONEY. An absolute disgrace.
As I said elsewhere, beneficiaries of corruption tend to be the biggest cheerleaders for more corruption.
Read what the TOS says about personal attacks, o ye of the high ethics!
Not a response to my post about Jill Stein being just like Jenny McCarthy about vaccines.
I know Hillary Clinton said that in 2008. She was pandering. She has since said several times over that vaccines are safe and effective. It's about as certain as it gets that vaccines don't cause autism.
I didn't know I was forced to support pharmaceutical companies completely controlling what gets deemed safe in this country for corporate interests if I also support vaccines. Strange how much the Democratic Party has forced you into believing that corporations have ALWAYS put you first, not their profits. Or am I missing something here?
I'm sure you know that the false autism connection to vaccines was from a doctor who had their license revoked and the study retracted after falsifying data, did that to promote his own version of the vaccine he deemed caused autism, so he could sell more of his own patented "non-autism causing" vaccine which was approved by the FDA not too long before the "study" was published. Pharmaceutical companies in general are a gold mine of corruption and corporate greed, go read about Martin Shkreli if that's not enough proof. I personally think Martin Shkreli, and the guy who did the vaccine/autism study, is enough proof that there is too much corporate greed in our healthcare. And there's probably more corporate greed going on in this industry that we just are not seeing.
Listen I am pro-vaccine myself, but I don't want corporations controlling the FDA. This includes pharmaceuticals AND companies like Monsanto. She shares the same sentiment as I do.
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Originally Posted by Katarina Witt
Stein (I refuse to call her "doctor", BTW) hasn't worked in pediatrics since she did her rotation in medical school. I already explained, she had little reason to know much of anything about vaccines, and no reason to know anything about childhood vaccines.
You also said earlier someone in internal medicine would know very little about vaccines. You should tell that to the current Director for the Office of New Drugs in the FDA, who studied internal medicine:
BUT WAIT, one other important director in the FDA who also studied internal medicine! And he is actually the director for the office that approves vaccines!
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Originally Posted by Peter Marks, M.D., Ph.D., Director, Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research
"The center regulates and does research on complex biologic products that touch people's lives on a daily basis," says Dr. Marks. "Many of the products that we regulate are vital for promoting and protecting the public health, including vaccines, blood products, and tissues for transplantation. I'm very proud to lead a team of highly committed individuals whose efforts help to ensure the timely development of safe and effective products to meet important medical needs."
Should I tell the Director of the Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research that he is unqualified to conduct studies on vaccines since he did a residency in Internal Medicine with fellowships in hematology and oncology? I don't know about you, but this guy looks pretty qualified for his job to me! I oughta tell him only people in pediatrics know anything about vaccines.
So if you still think the Director of the Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research, the division within the FDA that studies the safety of our vaccines, is unfit for his position because he is an internist like Jill Stein and not in pediatrics then you should agree with me that the FDA should have more oversight and be more careful on what it deems safe. But then if you retract your statement about internists about not having good opinions on vaccines and that the guy in the FDA knows what he is doing, then you also have to agree that all internists, including Jill Stein, know something about vaccines and can have a good, educated stance on them.
Looks like you are in between a rock and a hard place here.
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