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If we're going to cherry pick the IBD/TIPP poll which has been the most accurate poll in recent presidential elections has Trump up by two in a four-way race..
I guess Hillary will win, in a rigged election. And I predict some sort of collapse in Russia during Hillary Clinton's mandate too. Sort of like what happened to the Soviet Union.
If we're going to cherry pick the IBD/TIPP poll which has been the most accurate poll in recent presidential elections has Trump up by two in a four-way race..
No need to cherry pick Clinton polls. The aggregators are sea of blue.
Liberals are ALWAYS going on about how Georgia is a swing state and how South Carolina and Texas will turn blue in the next few elections.
I cannot talk to the matter of SC or TX, but GA is going to turn Blue. Not this year, surely, and probably not by 2020, but perhaps by 2024. I'm glad that I'll (probably) still be alive to see it.
Of course, it may not actually happen (though not for the reasons you probably believe): It is possible that both the Republicans and Democrats will turn sharply left during that time. That would turn Hillary Clinton, as she is today, into a Republican, representing half of America, and would place Bernie Sanders squarely in the center of the Democratic Party (instead of at its far-left fringe), representing the other half of the country. Given that I'm a Hillary Clinton supporter, I suppose that would make me a Republican in 2024 (or whenever) and would probably mean a lot of my compatriots would similarly have to switch parties to maintain our current left-center perspective (left-center vis a vis today's parameters). That would, of course, mean that Georgia would remain Red - it just won't be the racist, sexist, xenophobic, homophobic, Islamophobic, greed-centric, money-grubbing, callous and uncaring Red that we have today. Instead it would be a new Red that looks remarkably like today's Blue.
There's precedent for this, though it is hard to see amid all the even more disruptive changes to the political parties over the centuries. It probably happened in the 20th century, but at the same time we had the whole thing with the Dixiecrats following racism over to the Republican Party after LBJ signed civil rights legislation into law. That was such a major impact that trying to read past that impact to see a more subtle shift to the left by both parties would be impossible.
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Originally Posted by 04kL4nD
You must hang out with some pretty uniformed liberals, because I've never seen such claims. This honestly sounds like something you're just making up.
He's not making it up. It's real. Like I said I cannot talk about SC or TX, but for GA, it's real.
If we're going to cherry pick the IBD/TIPP poll which has been the most accurate poll in recent presidential elections has Trump up by two in a four-way race..
Yup, Trump widened his lead to 2 points above Clinton in this poll. He's also up 5 over Clinton in the LA Times poll which everyone either loves or hates.
I guess Hillary will win, in a rigged election. And I predict some sort of collapse in Russia during Hillary Clinton's mandate too. Sort of like what happened to the Soviet Union.
Oh, for crying to loud, the election is not rigged.
Trump is just saying this. Just like he says a lot of things, 75% - 90% of which are "factually inaccurate." (i.e. lies).
Maybe he is talking about the Republicans trying to rig the election through voter suppression efforts. Fortunately, judges are slapping those efforts down.
Russia is on the edge of a financial collapse. Oil is their main export and with the price way down and nations becoming energy independent, their economy is tanking. Putin is doing what he can to take over other nations' resources.
Given how much this election has been rigged in Trump's favor, by Director Comey's irresponsible errors, by Russian hacking at Trump's urging, etc., it is quite remarkable that Hillary Clinton will will despite that.
If we're going to cherry pick the IBD/TIPP poll which has been the most accurate poll in recent presidential elections has Trump up by two in a four-way race..
Except it hasn't been the most accurate. Which people need to stop saying.
Rasmussen has her up 2. So it seems that they are converging on a 2-4 point race. Which of course can be off depending on how election day turns out.
We might see a lot of converging today as pollster do what they can to set themselves up as accurate.
Future contracts depend on it.
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