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Old 03-09-2008, 11:11 AM
 
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I'm not voting for Hillary because I don't trust her or her husband. To vote for Hillary is to put Bill Clinton back in office. He's already shown he has a hard time keeping his mouth shut and out of her campaign. His ranting hurt her campaign. Fortunately they've put him back in the background. When our country needs serious answers and solutions, I think she and Bill will try to take us back to the "feel good" times, while they go to Washington parties and leave us to drown in our own mess. I don't want the "feel good" times. I want our country back. Unfortunately, I'm not sure there's a candidate running from either party who will be able to do it.

With regard to her marriage issues, clearly her political agenda was more important that Bill's pandering, and her political future was the payoff despite him embarrassing her in public. I highly doubt it came as a surprise to her when it was made public.
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Old 03-09-2008, 11:19 AM
 
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You mistake me for a republican. I dislike John McCain for what he did to his first wife. Just the other day I was discussing this with my husband. I couldn't believe he just left his "disfigured" wife. Hey Johnny boy, look in the freaking mirror!!

I would have so much more respect for her if she would have left his cheating a$$. Then she could have demonstrated to the country what she stands for, that she's a woman of her own making. I look at David Vitter's wife and just shake my head, thinking "Seriously woman? You're gonna stay with someone who buys hookers?"

I EQUALLY dislike men and women who use others for power. John McCain used Cindy for power, just like Hillary used Bill. EQUALLY disgusting in my book. Is that enough EQUALITY for you? Or am I still jealous? Hey, maybe I'm jealous of McCain. I just insulted him. Its probably penis envy.


""I EQUALLY dislike men and women who use others for power"""


I guess you must dislike EVERY politician then! They ALL USE people to get ahead...they wouldn't succeed otherwise....don't be so naive.
Do you ever judge them on their policies, or their accomplishments?????
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Old 03-09-2008, 12:02 PM
 
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Personally,as a married mother, I just don't think she really represents me. I don't respect her as a woman. You can spin her decision to stay with Bill any way you like, but the fact is he continually cheated on her and humiliated her, yet she stayed. I would venture a guess that if Hillary was the woman down the street, we would all be making fun of her and asking "Why?". She has used her husband to get ahead. Would she be where she is today without him? She cannot stand on her own two feet. She counts Bill's term as president as "experience". Whatever lady. My husband has been in the Navy for 10years. I don't consider myself to have 10 years military experience. I have experience as a military wife. I am who I am because of me. My husband supports me, but I do not derive my identity from something he did. That's just some of the reasons I don't like her and wouldn't vote for her if my life depended on it.
Glad you are not my neighbor but I am very sure there are many out there just like you and your neighbors... that is why I think women are their own worst enemies and the reason that most of my friends are men.
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Old 03-09-2008, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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I am a single working mother. I would have had more respect for Hillary if she would have taken Chelsea and left him and the White House behind during all that mess. But I think he needed her, and now she needs him. That's a shame, I think she would have done just fine without him, maybe not running for President, but just fine. No one needs a scumbag husband, ask someone who knows!
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Old 03-09-2008, 12:12 PM
 
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I am a single working mother. I would have had more respect for Hillary if she would have taken Chelsea and left him and the White House behind during all that mess. But I think he needed her, and now she needs him. That's a shame, I think she would have done just fine without him, maybe not running for President, but just fine. No one needs a scumbag husband, ask someone who knows!
I don't think that their personal affairs should have anything to do with business.
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Old 03-09-2008, 12:29 PM
 
Location: bumcrack Nebraska
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Glad you are not my neighbor but I am very sure there are many out there just like you and your neighbors... that is why I think women are their own worst enemies and the reason that most of my friends are men.
Oh my God! I was trying to make a point. If she were anyone else, people would seriously question her decision to stay. But way to distract from the real issues. The Clinton's are experts at that. Apparently their followers are as well.
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Old 03-09-2008, 12:56 PM
 
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Oh my God! I was trying to make a point. If she were anyone else, people would seriously question her decision to stay. But way to distract from the real issues. The Clinton's are experts at that. Apparently their followers are as well.


Her lack of a divorce is not a real issue.




""I EQUALLY dislike men and women who use others for power"""


I guess you must dislike EVERY politician then! They ALL USE people to get ahead...they wouldn't succeed otherwise....don't be so naive.
Do you ever judge them on their policies, or their accomplishments?????
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Old 03-09-2008, 01:03 PM
 
Location: bumcrack Nebraska
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Her lack of a divorce is not a real issue.




""I EQUALLY dislike men and women who use others for power"""


I guess you must dislike EVERY politician then! They ALL USE people to get ahead...they wouldn't succeed otherwise....don't be so naive.
Do you ever judge them on their policies, or their accomplishments?????
Name something Hillary accomplished independent of her husband? Because I live in New York and cannot for the life of me list one thing she's done on her own.

Naive, no. Idealistic, yes. I refuse to accept "Well, everyone else is doing it" as an excuse for bad behavior.
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Old 03-09-2008, 01:10 PM
 
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Oh my God! I was trying to make a point. If she were anyone else, people would seriously question her decision to stay. But way to distract from the real issues. The Clinton's are experts at that. Apparently their followers are as well.
You are the one that seems to think that her marital issues or past marital issues are the real issues... do you know what the real issues are... the National Enquirer would like to know?
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Old 03-09-2008, 01:20 PM
 
Location: bumcrack Nebraska
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You are the one that seems to think that her marital issues or past marital issues are the real issues... do you know what the real issues are... the National Enquirer would like to know?
I feel like I'm talking to walls here. If you would have read all my posts on this thread you would have come across me saying that I agree with some of her ideas. I know where she stands on the issues. You can try to insult me all you want. Doesn't change facts.

I feel the woman lacks character. She accepts dishonesty in those closest to her. That's the real issue, not the lack of divorce. Who will she chose to advise her? Dishonest people? The best indicator of future behavior is past behavior.

There are just too many scandals involving her to ignore. Well, for me there is. For her supporters, its just the big right-wing conspiracy. I know she's supposedly been cleared of wrongdoing, but where there's smoke, there's fire.

But you're right. I'm just a mean, catty jealous b#$%h. God I wish I was her! (searches for a barfing smiley but doesn't find one)
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