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Old 03-09-2008, 02:44 PM
 
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I haven't read her Biography, but Dick Morris, who was a close adviser to the Clintons, has and he disputes a few of the "facts" that she has written. He should know.
I think Teatime made it clear there's a difference between an autobiography and a biography. A biography will give you her accomplishments....what Dick says is as irrelevant as your opinion.
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Old 03-09-2008, 02:46 PM
 
Location: bumcrack Nebraska
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Why don't you simply do a Google search and read the Wiki article if you really want to know? Her accomplishments are too many to rewrite into a list and, frankly, I wouldn't go to the trouble because I don't think you're really that interested.
Well, if that isn't an Obama supporter answer I don't know what is! You speak poorly of Obama supporters who refer you to his website, yet you refer me to the internet to find something Hillary has accomplished.

Please, do not take me for an inflexible person. Rude, sarcastic, sometimes mean, but not inflexible. I would love to be proved wrong about Hillary. I would love to see a woman show up all the old stuffy Washington politicians. Please, and I truly mean this, tell me in you own words something she has accomplished.
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Old 03-09-2008, 02:50 PM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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Sexist? Where am i being sexist? When Hillary said the men were ganging up on her was far more sexist than anything i have said. When she started crying and trying for the sympathy vote, what was tha? All i'm giving is a American womans opinion of Hillary Clinton. If it is not what you want to hear, i'm sorry, but the question is "why do many married Mothers dislike Hillary" and my wife has the opinion that she would do anything to reach her goal of President, even put up with Bill's lies and deceipt, among other things to get there.
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Old 03-09-2008, 02:52 PM
 
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I feel like I'm talking to walls here. If you would have read all my posts on this thread you would have come across me saying that I agree with some of her ideas. I know where she stands on the issues. You can try to insult me all you want. Doesn't change facts.

I feel the woman lacks character. She accepts dishonesty in those closest to her. That's the real issue, not the lack of divorce. Who will she chose to advise her? Dishonest people? The best indicator of future behavior is past behavior.

There are just too many scandals involving her to ignore. Well, for me there is. For her supporters, its just the big right-wing conspiracy. I know she's supposedly been cleared of wrongdoing, but where there's smoke, there's fire.

But you're right. I'm just a mean, catty jealous b#$%h. God I wish I was her! (searches for a barfing smiley but doesn't find one)

Oh, sorry, your first post indicated "lack of divorce " as your issue(???):


"""Personally,as a married mother, I just don't think she really represents me. I don't respect her as a woman. You can spin her decision to stay with Bill any way you like, but the fact is he continually cheated on her and humiliated her, yet she stayed. I would venture a guess that if Hillary was the woman down the street, we would all be making fun of her and asking "Why?". She has used her husband to get ahead. Would she be where she is today without him?"""
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Old 03-09-2008, 02:53 PM
 
Location: bumcrack Nebraska
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Oh, sorry, your first post indicated "lack of divorce " as your issue(???):


"""Personally,as a married mother, I just don't think she really represents me. I don't respect her as a woman. You can spin her decision to stay with Bill any way you like, but the fact is he continually cheated on her and humiliated her, yet she stayed. I would venture a guess that if Hillary was the woman down the street, we would all be making fun of her and asking "Why?". She has used her husband to get ahead. Would she be where she is today without him?"""
You forgot the rest of the post. Keep trying!
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Old 03-09-2008, 02:56 PM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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Yes i think i can take the word of Dick Morris as he was with the Clintons when she claims to have achieved some of the things that she does in her biography.
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Old 03-09-2008, 02:57 PM
 
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You forgot the rest of the post. Keep trying!
Show me where I was wrong????


I think that post showed you're just a tad confused.......

Oh, and I'm not "trying"...I'm succeeding.....
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Old 03-09-2008, 02:58 PM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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A good example of Hillary claiming to achieve something she didn't, please look at Paperhouse thread on this issue. Very telling.
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Old 03-09-2008, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Well, if that isn't an Obama supporter answer I don't know what is! You speak poorly of Obama supporters who refer you to his website, yet you refer me to the internet to find something Hillary has accomplished.

Please, do not take me for an inflexible person. Rude, sarcastic, sometimes mean, but not inflexible. I would love to be proved wrong about Hillary. I would love to see a woman show up all the old stuffy Washington politicians. Please, and I truly mean this, tell me in you own words something she has accomplished.
Even though this is probably a huge waste of my time and I really should be outside tending my rose bushes, here you go. This isn't an exhaustive list -- just some highlights, assembled from a variety of sources:

She worked at the Yale Child Study Center, learning about new research on early childhood brain development and working as a research assistant on the seminal work, Beyond the Best Interests of the Child. She also took on cases of child abuse at Yale-New Haven Hospital and volunteered at New Haven Legal Services to provide free advice for the poor.

In 1970, she was awarded a grant to work at Marian Wright Edelman's Washington Research Project, where she was assigned to Senator Walter Mondale's Subcommittee on Migratory Labor, researching migrant workers' problems in housing, sanitation, health and education.

During her post-graduate study, Rodham served as staff attorney for the Children's Defense Fund in Cambridge, Mass., and as a consultant to the Carnegie Council on Children.

In 1974 she was a member of the impeachment inquiry staff in Washington, D.C., advising the House Committee on the Judiciary during the Watergate scandal.

Rodham co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, a state-level alliance with the Children's Defense Fund in 1977. In late 1977, President Jimmy Carter appointed her to the board of directors of the Legal Services Corporation until the end of 1981. For much of that time she served as the chair of that board, the first woman to do so.

As First Lady of Arkansas, she was appointed by her husband as chair of the Rural Health Advisory Committee where she successfully obtained federal funds to expand medical facilities in Arkansas' poorest areas without affecting doctors' fees.

She chaired the Arkansas Educational Standards Committee from 1982 to 1992. In one of the most important initiatives of the entire Clinton governorship, she fought a prolonged but successful battle against the Arkansas Education Association to put mandatory teacher testing as well as state standards for curriculum and classroom size in place. She introduced Arkansas' Home Instruction Program for Preschool Youth in 1985, a program that helps parents work with their children in preschool preparedness and literacy. She was named Arkansas Woman of the Year in 1983 and Arkansas Mother of the Year in 1984.

Along with Senator Ted Kennedy, she was the major force behind the State Children's Health Insurance Program in 1997. She promoted nationwide immunization against childhood illnesses and encouraged older women to seek a mammogram to detect breast cancer, with coverage provided by Medicare. The First Lady worked to investigate reports of an illness that affected veterans of the Gulf War, which became known as the Gulf War syndrome.

In 1997, she initiated and shepherded the Adoption and Safe Families Act, which she regarded as her greatest accomplishment as First Lady.

Hillary Clinton traveled to 79 countries, breaking the mark for most-travelled First Lady held by Pat Nixon. In a September 1995 speech before the Fourth World Conference on Women in Beijing, Clinton argued very forcefully against practices that abused women around the world and in the People's Republic of China itself, declaring "that it is no longer acceptable to discuss women's rights as separate from human rights" and resisting Chinese pressure to soften her remarks. She helped create Vital Voices, an international initiative sponsored by the United States to promote the participation of women in the political processes of their countries.

Clinton initiated and was Founding Chair of the Save America's Treasures program, a national effort that matched federal funds to private donations for the purpose of preserving and restoring historic items and sites, including the flag that inspired the Star Spangled Banner and the First Ladies Historic Site in Canton, Ohio.

Clinton has served on five Senate committees: Committee on Budget (2001–2002), Committee on Armed Services (since 2003), Committee on Environment and Public Works (since 2001), Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (since 2001) and Special Committee on Aging. She is also a Commissioner of the Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe[210] (since 2001).

"Following the September 11, 2001, attacks, Clinton sought to obtain funding for the recovery efforts in New York City and security improvements in her state. Working with New York's senior senator, Charles Schumer, she was instrumental in quickly securing $21 billion in funding for the World Trade Center site's redevelopment. She subsequently took a leading role in investigating the health issues faced by 9/11 first responders."
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Old 03-09-2008, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Shouldn't the direct quotes have quotation marks?
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