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You have already admitted that this cannot be measured. Why are you using variables that can't be measured?
When something can't be measured it is estimated. It makes absolutely no sense to disregard grey salaries in Russia, because they are very big.
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Now, I'm not suggesting that grey salaries don't exist, but the fact of the matter is that many people don't receive them and it's fallacious to use them as an economic indicator.
Are you really an educated person?? How hard is it to comprehend this:
That's a statistical measure, that includes people, who receive 100% white salaries, and people, who receive only 10%.
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In short, grey salaries could be anywhere from 0% to 100% of total salaries. You can't verify that either of those extremes are right or wrong.
Estimates are 30-50%. What is impossible is to choose a correct number in that range. In such cases it is common to choose a middle. But, if you wanna stay on a conservative side, you can use the min number.
Estimates are 30-50%. What is impossible is to choose a correct number in that range. In such cases it is common to choose a middle. But, if you wanna stay on a conservative side, you can use the min number.
All right, fine. Please post the link that illustrates that grey salaries are in the 30-50% range (you had previously written 50-100%, but whatever).
Rebel, in spite of your conviction that money define everything in this life, the reasons that a lot of Russians are citing behind their desire to leave, are not of materialistic nature.
In fact a lot of those who would love to leave are well to do people. What they can't take any longer, is corruption, ( which affects businesses big time,) absence of law, inability to "find ends" in courts and so on.
This particular article in WSJ does not discuss the reasons behind the "immigration mood," but other articles written in Russian do specify the reasons.
PS. And yes, these "mail order brides" sites today are mostly a scam.
Some people are simply making money on it.
I believe money defines where you live, what you eat and where your kids go to school. That's enough to make a major determinant.
And no, mail order brides still come in to the US in hordes.
When something can't be measured it is estimated. It makes absolutely no sense to disregard grey salaries in Russia, because they are very big.
Are you really an educated person?? How hard is it to comprehend this:
That's a statistical measure, that includes people, who receive 100% white salaries, and people, who receive only 10%.
Estimates are 30-50%. What is impossible is to choose a correct number in that range. In such cases it is common to choose a middle. But, if you wanna stay on a conservative side, you can use the min number.
But you just said grey salaries are guesstimated. Therefore they can't be a reliable indicator of anything. And you posted that ALL salaries have a "grey" component, which is clearly inaccurate, because jeff says he and his wife never had any grey income. So you've lost all credibility here, you may as well give up and go harass a different forum. I'm sure you'll find many opportunities on the internet to defend Russia.
the reasons that a lot of Russians are citing behind their desire to leave, are not of materialistic nature.
In fact a lot of those who would love to leave are well to do people. What they can't take any longer, is corruption, ( which affects businesses big time,) absence of law, inability to "find ends" in courts and so on.
Now this is interesting and insightful. Imagine the quality of the conversation we could have if we weren't fending off propagandists at every turn!
Now this is interesting and insightful. Imagine the quality of the conversation we could have if we weren't fending off propagandists at every turn!
But as I've said - the picture of today's Russia wouldn't be complete/well-defined without people like ROL.
( After all, do you think Putin payed millions of dollars to some British company for the abc's of the art of political advertising of Russia for nothing?)
A thought came to my mind for a second; inviting over here people from Yabloko forum - they are from different walks of life too, for an interview... And I'd be translating as I do my whole life))))
The picture I'm sure would be quite different comparably to what ROL is describing here.
( And yes, quite a few of them were from Siberia/Russian Far East as well from what I remember...)
Rebel, in spite of your conviction that money define everything in this life, the reasons that a lot of Russians are citing behind their desire to leave, are not of materialistic nature.
In fact a lot of those who would love to leave are well to do people. What they can't take any longer, is corruption, ( which affects businesses big time,) absence of law, inability to "find ends" in courts and so on.
This particular article in WSJ does not discuss the reasons behind the "immigration mood," but other articles written in Russian do specify the reasons.
These are no small matters, indeed.
My wife's co-worker bought some land not far from one of the universities in Vladivostok. However, he could not get the government administrator to "stamp" (those gov't people love stamps) his contract unless he forked over two million rubles (apprx. 65K USD). Although he could afford it, the co-worker refused to pay it; so, her co-worker took it to court, where it has been for at least five years (I'm not sure where it stands as of today). He also owns land on Russkiy Island, which has been a huge problem for him as well.
My wife has a lot of funny/tragic (depending on how one looks at it) stories about corruption due to being an auditor in many types of companies (including many logging and mining companies). I'll ask her to share a couple as it would be probably be interesting for this forum.
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