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@ streetway : Ihate to break the news, but the Soviet Union broke away nearly a quarter of a century ago (lol)
But maybe for you and your NATO bosses, the remaining Federation of Russia is still too big/powerful and should be disposed of the way you and your friends disposed of former Yugoslavia, making it bloodily implode.
My previous post describes the historical events, during which Soviet union existed so I don't understand what you are talking about.
Who cares when your predecesors came to that area ? Ukrainian boundaries were accepted by Russia.
Russian aggression is unacceptable and I hope international isolation will soon be imposed on Russian economy as an answer for its expansive and aggresive behavior.
Russian citizens obviously represent safety risk for European countries so the only solution now is to deport them back to Russia if they do not leave voluntarily.
Did Russia behave agressive? We noticed agressive behaviour only related to Kiev. We don't mind if Ukrainin inhabitants will deport themslves to Poland or Hungary these borders of Ukraine were accepted too. The only difference- Ukraine was not accepted as a country, but 'grand" Ukrainians as usually forgot about this fact.
And... learn history
Did Russia behave agressive? We noticed agressive behaviour only related to Kiev. We don't mind if Ukrainin inhabitants will deport themslves to Poland or Hungary too, these borders of Ukraine were accepted too. The only difference- Ukraine was not accepted as a country, but 'grand" Ukrainians as usually forgot about this fact.
Ukrainians have right for self-determination and they used this right, built its own country that has internationally accepted and recognized borders. Just because you don't like it ? Your problem.
Only problem and aggressor is Russia and Russians in Ukraine, if you don't like Ukraine leave and don't whine, no one cares about Russians.
I disagree with a lot of things made by our government. But who are you to say that all Russians should be deported from all Central European countries? Your words are shameful. To speak about democracy and to propose a mass deportations? Are you serious?
Do you know that for example the mayor of Riga is Russian? He knows Latvian and works as a mayor for a long time. Do you know that there are a lot of people just doing business in Europe?
So please calm down and understand that you propose some very strange things.
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Ukrainians have right for self-determination and they used this right, built its own country that has internationally accepted and recognized borders. Just because you don't like it ? Your problem.
Only problem and aggressor is Russia and Russians in Ukraine, if you don't like Ukraine leave and don't whine, no one cares about Russians.
The same, we have the right for self-defence from Nazis. Or maybe hey will deport 7 million people (I am talking only about Novorossia and don't count people from Dnepropetrovsk, Odessa and Kharkov regions)? Do you actually know what is going on? I don't think so and your words about deportation sound absourd. Before they started to kill us we wanted only self-determination and we used this right, is it our fault that some big guys can accept using only those rights which will bring profit to them?
@ ramzes 55 : the Western Propagandastaffel will probably say after viewing this video either that
1) it has been filmed somewhere else, in Syria or in Chechnya
2) that the dead people (including children) are Russian secret agents/ special forces
3) even if it is local people, they deserved this because they voted for Donbass independence
At least 356 people, including 257 civilians, have died since the beginning of the “anti-terrorist” operation in Ukraine’s eastern regions of Lugansk and Donetsk, according to UN calculations. There were 14 children among the dead.
The results prepared by the UN special commission in Ukraine have been presented by Gianni Magazzeni, head of European Department of the Office of the High Commissioner of Human Rights.
According to Magazzeni, the final body count includes 257 civilians (of them 14 children), 11 more died in Mariupol plus two staff members of Voda Donbassa company . The remaining 86 victims are the servicemen of Ukrainian army, including several dozen paratroopers and nine crew members of Ilyushin-76 who died in the recent plane crash not far from Lugansk airport.
I disagree with a lot of things made by our government. But who are you to say that all Russians should be deported from all Central European countries? Your words are shameful. To speak about democracy and to propose a mass deportations? Are you serious?
Do you know that for example the mayor of Riga is Russian? He knows Latvian and works as a mayor for a long time. Do you know that there are a lot of people just doing business in Europe?
So please calm down and understand that you propose some very strange things.
I am not saying that there are bad Russians only in the Europe, but they simply represent a security risk you can't refute it, it's a fact that Putin can use these people as an excuse for invasion.
I don't see it as an very strange thing, ve expelled Germans similar way. history repeats itself again and this aggression will eventually end in Russian exodus.
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The Ukrainian army is firing Kramatorsk.
