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Old 07-22-2017, 06:58 PM
 
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It's sadly the Truth, look at the last link I posted, their companies cheat on a natural bases due to their inherent arrogance. I know Germans and I know this to be the truth.
Like I said earlier, the irony that you call others full of themselves.
So you know that Germans are arrogant and racist. Ok then.
That stereotyping of off what you think is the truth makes you just as arrogant and full of yourself by your own definition.

Regarding your "proof" based on your article.
you do know there have been quite a few scandals involving US companies throughout the years.
GM just this year have been accused of diesel emissions cheating just like VW.
Then there is Apple and all their law-suits against them for immoral business practices. Merrill Lynch cheating their own customers and there are enough more examples.

So does that mean all Americans are naturally arrogant and racist? If we use your stereotyping rule and "proof" I guess so.......
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Old 07-22-2017, 07:05 PM
 
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I think Slavic people are much colder even on the inside compared to Germans, Scandinavians and Anglo-saxons. They strike me as just as emotionless inside as they look. Think: Putin. While a German/Dutch might appear reserved, many of they have warm hearts. I am an empath, so I can sense when someone is truly cold/heartless or just shy/reserved/introverted.

And no I am not some Anglo-Saxon, Germanic or Scandinavian or Latin. I am Slavic so I grew up in this culture and I know most people have no feelings.

Most Slavic people (yes, even my fellow countrymen and women) to me register as cold entities, like robots incapable of emotions other than negative ones. they lack that certain spark of the Irish, Latin souls or the hidden fire of Germanics/Vikings the Scandinavians and Germanic speakers have.

I think of all the Germanic/Latin people's the coldest/soulless/heartless ones are the French and North Italians. they come of ass emotionally dead/incapable and empty/cold as Slavic people.

No one has ever offered me help in Prague or my home city Belgrade. In the Netherlands they did it even without me asking if I looked confused. Oh and most clerks/shopkeepers etc smiled.
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Old 07-22-2017, 07:19 PM
 
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Why is this thread still running? It's despicable.
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Old 07-22-2017, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Why is this thread still running? It's despicable.
the truth is often unwanted but the evidence keeps piling on, the Germans have the potential to be the largest threat to the global economy outside of China right now.
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Old 07-22-2017, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Like I said earlier, the irony that you call others full of themselves.
So you know that Germans are arrogant and racist. Ok then.
That stereotyping of off what you think is the truth makes you just as arrogant and full of yourself by your own definition.

Regarding your "proof" based on your article.
you do know there have been quite a few scandals involving US companies throughout the years.
GM just this year have been accused of diesel emissions cheating just like VW.
Then there is Apple and all their law-suits against them for immoral business practices. Merrill Lynch cheating their own customers and there are enough more examples.

So does that mean all Americans are naturally arrogant and racist? If we use your stereotyping rule and "proof" I guess so.......
American companies do often play foul but they are done on separate independent cases. The German companies work in cahoots with the idea of mutual cultural arrogance, and that has enabled them to destroy the economies of Europe under the guise of their own superiority.
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Old 07-23-2017, 12:28 AM
 
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American companies do often play foul but they are done on separate independent cases. The German companies work in cahoots with the idea of mutual cultural arrogance, and that has enabled them to destroy the economies of Europe under the guise of their own superiority.
The excuses you are now making are becoming embarrassing. You are wrong again. Big Pharma or Big tobacco are and have been in cahoots for years in the US in with many lawsuits against them for immoral conduct and business practices or as you like to call it "cultural arrogance".
Seriously where is YOUR arrogance coming from?
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Old 07-23-2017, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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That's what graduated taxes are for. You know, like they used to have in the US; the lowest earners didn't even pay tax, except for sales tax, and maybe property tax, if they owned property. But not income tax. The highest earners paid the highest tax. And that meant in the US, back in the good old days, there was upward mobility for people who otherwise would have no hope. At the time, the US was considered one of the most egalitarian societies in existence.

And that was a good thing; it created stability. Compared to, for example, the Depression years, when the Socialist and Communist parties gained a lot of desperate recruits. That's what happens when you have huge socio-economic disparities in society, you know. Your (and others') fixation on opting out of contributing to a stable, thriving economy is threatening to bring about the very conditions you deplore. Not very bright.

Back in the day, people understood that. They only had to look to Latin America to see that having a society where the top small percent of high earners lived behind high walls topped with broken glass, while the vast majority participated in socialist, communist and Maoist parties, organized constant labor strikes and political upheaval, and resorted to crime, wasn't what they wanted for the US.

How times change! Why you, or anyone, would want such a scenario for the US is beyond me. It's traitorous, if you ask me.
Ruth. There is still a "graduated tax" system in the US. About 47 percent of Americans pay no federal income tax at all. And there are still many lower income folks in the US who get more in a "tax refund" than they actually ever paid in taxes.

Germany has the third highest tax rate in the OECD, at almost 50 percent of income. But hey, free tuition! And by the way, many students are still graduating with debt because their costs of living (room, board, etc) are so high that they have to take out loans to have a place to sleep and eat while they're enjoying that "free" tuition.

https://qz.com/812200/is-free-colleg...-free-college/

Once again, I'll reiterate my position. I really like Germany and the Germans. I think it's a beautiful country. I enjoyed living there. I also enjoyed getting back "home."

To touch on a few more points - I didn't live in a touristy area - I lived in "the real Germany." In "the real Germany" (a town of about 60k) I got to observe "real" Germans in every day life. I made some good German friends. My impressions over a three year period were basically positive but I think realistic. I won't go into the negatives because it will come across as bashing Germans and Germany when the reality is that I enjoyed living there for the most part. But there are negatives as well as positives. I am sitting here laughing at some of the stereotypes on this thread by the way - from everyone, including the Germans.

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Old 07-23-2017, 12:19 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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If a student in Germany can't pay for rent and food, they can apply for Bafög, a kind of student loan with rather fair conditions. And the debt is minor compared with the debt US students often pile up. I received some Bafög and paid it back within just a few months as soon as I got my first job.

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Old 07-23-2017, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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If a student in Germany can't pay for rent and food, they can apply for Bafög, a kind of student loan with rather fair conditions. And the debt is minor compared with the debt US students often pile up. I received some Bafög and paid it back within just a few months as soon as I got my first job.
Right - like I said, in spite of free tuition, many German students still have to take out loans to pay for their other expenses.
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Old 07-23-2017, 02:02 PM
 
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Right - like I said, in spite of free tuition, many German students still have to take out loans to pay for their other expenses.
This is true. But why do you call it "free" tuition? It is free. Surely we are not expecting the universities/schools to pay for lodging and books. The actual teaching (as you no doubt know) is free, hence free tuition.
Also there are many tax-breaks for students.

I'm in total agreement however in general income tax in Germany is ridiculous compared to the US. Also healthcare is not as free as some people think. People actually these days often have to pay part of the bill not unlike in the US.
So yes not everything is roses compared to the US by a long shot but education and its accessibility and affordability is (for now anyways) still something where Germany excels compared to the US.

And no that does not make Germany better, it is just one part where it happens to be better. On the flip side of course if one wants the best and most prestige schools there is nothing in Germany like most top Ivy League schools in the US.
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