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Old 01-20-2022, 06:25 PM
 
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ever heard of gurabia treat

I suspect I do.
But it went under a slightly different name - Kurabie - in Russia ( and it was included in the broader category of "Eastern Sweets," in this case - coming from Caucasus, Azerbaijan in particular.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qurabiya

One of the best desserts, ever ( in fact one of my favorites.)
There was plenty of it around when I was growing up, but I didn't notice it last time I was there.
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Old 01-20-2022, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Russia
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Vegetables and meat haven't become an unhealthy diet. It's meat and starches, like the traditional meat and potatoes, or meat and bread, that's considered unhealthy.
The harmfulness of eating meat with potatoes is a myth. It all depends on the quantity. Meat itself is a low-calorie product containing mainly proteins and fats. And potatoes have a sufficient amount of carbohydrates and little fats. Therefore, on the contrary, they harmoniously complement each other. The main thing is to observe the proportions. And in general, potatoes are a very valuable and useful product, they contain a lot of vitamins and fiber. You can eat it almost every day. By the way, here's an example for you: Australian Andrew Taylor even lost weight, eating only potatoes.



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Russia (I don't know about Poland), being self-classified as a "northern" country, has trouble producing a wide variety of green veggies. For example, you're very unlikely to find zucchini or other small, tender squash varieties, in the markets. Or green beans (string beans), asparagus, etc.
You are mistaken. In Russia is full in shops and in markets fresh vegetables, herbs and fruits. Even at my dacha in Siberia in the summer, eggplants and zucchini and tomatoes and green onions and asparagus and, imagine, even string beans grow. Also strawberries, apples and raspberries.
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Old 01-20-2022, 07:01 PM
 
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I suspect I do.
But it went under a slightly different name - Kurabie - in Russia ( and it was included in the broader category of "Eastern Sweets," in this case - coming from Caucasus, Azerbaijan in particular.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qurabiya

One of the best desserts, ever ( in fact one of my favorites.)
There was plenty of it around when I was growing up, but I didn't notice it last time I was there.
"Eastern Sweets" ??
I've tried the Greek version, which is quite similar to the Italian ones that I could get locally.
Di Manno Soft Amaretti Almond Cookies
https://www.costcuisine.com/wp-conte.../amaretti.webp
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Old 01-20-2022, 07:39 PM
 
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"Eastern Sweets" ??
I've tried the Greek version, which is quite similar to the Italian ones that I could get locally.
Di Manno Soft Amaretti Almond Cookies
https://www.costcuisine.com/wp-conte.../amaretti.webp

Yes, that was referral to the kind of sweets that were coming originally from Caucasus for the most part, but they were made in "Russia proper" commercially.

Things like Halva, (of different varieties,) kozinaki, ( something similar was made from the poppy seeds too - don't even remember the name,) rakhat-locum, shaker-locum, nougat, sorbet - things like that.

Classical "Baku" kurabie looked like this back in Soviet times;


( Don't remember seeing baklava in the stores - just home-made.

Needless to say, my relatives were cooking up a storm when visiting us in Moscow)))
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Old 01-20-2022, 07:46 PM
 
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"Eastern Sweets" ??
I've tried the Greek version, which is quite similar to the Italian ones that I could get locally.
Di Manno Soft Amaretti Almond Cookies
https://www.costcuisine.com/wp-conte.../amaretti.webp

P.S. Italian cookies taste somewhat different.

I think that French or German cookies ( can't figure out which ones now) are closer to "curabie" kind...
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Old 01-20-2022, 08:12 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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From my personal experience most of the Russian/Ukrainian immigrant families that I know including my own rarely ever went out to restaurants and especially not Russian/Ukrainian restaurants. Going to a restaurant was seen as a waste of money, we were very frugal when it came to food. The train of thought was if we can cook the same dish for less money and make it taste even better, then why even go to the restaurant? So we if we ever did go it would a fast food place like McDonalds on a road trip, and even then we often packed our own food. Or we would go out for Asian restaurants to try something new and to learn from it and incorporate into our own dishes. Not sure if this mentality exists with other immigrant families but that’s how it was in our family. It was considered a big dishonor and shame if a wife couldn’t cook a high quality meal.
But the wife appreciated an occasional break from cooking. (Or the resident grandmother.) I suppose it depended on the family's economic situation. I can tell you one thing: the Russians from Harbin LOVED to go out for Chinese food! And since it wasn't in the family's repertoire to cook it at home, they'd go out. Or order in. Come to think of it, though, that tended to happen after the kids were grown, so the family budget wasn't as tight.
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Old 01-20-2022, 11:09 PM
 
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P.S. Italian cookies taste somewhat different.

I think that French or German cookies ( can't figure out which ones now) are closer to "curabie" kind...
Di Manno Soft Amaretti Almond Cookies
bought at our local Costco, are soft and chewy.
Their recipe is quite similar to the Greek's.

The German almond cookies, also soft and chewy, are covered with a thin layer of chocolate.
I have not tried any French almond cookies, prolly hard as their 'langue du chat' cookies.
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Old 01-20-2022, 11:19 PM
 
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Yes, that was referral to the kind of sweets that were coming originally from Caucasus for the most part, but they were made in "Russia proper" commercially.

Things like Halva, (of different varieties,) kozinaki, ( something similar was made from the poppy seeds too - don't even remember the name,) rakhat-locum, shaker-locum, nougat, sorbet - things like that.

Classical "Baku" kurabie looked like this back in Soviet times;


( Don't remember seeing baklava in the stores - just home-made.

Needless to say, my relatives were cooking up a storm when visiting us in Moscow)))
That's quite a variety. The only cookies I can find here easily are from Poland - seasame snaps.

Boxed up Baklavas sold here are horrible; so disappointed. They are no where near those freshly made ones at my favorite Greek restaurant.
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Old 01-21-2022, 12:03 AM
 
Location: Tacoma WA, USA
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But the wife appreciated an occasional break from cooking. (Or the resident grandmother.) I suppose it depended on the family's economic situation. I can tell you one thing: the Russians from Harbin LOVED to go out for Chinese food! And since it wasn't in the family's repertoire to cook it at home, they'd go out. Or order in. Come to think of it, though, that tended to happen after the kids were grown, so the family budget wasn't as tight.
Well yes, but in my family’s case or grandmother didn’t live with us, but my dad is a pretty good cook and made a lot of the dishes, particularly Crimean Tatar dishes that my mom wasn’t familiar with such as Kobete and Chebureki. Plus I have 5 sisters, so there were plenty of hands to help out (even I helped out, it was a big family event), and now my mom doesn’t even do the cooking all that much, my sisters kinda took over the kitchen. And even though we are considerably more well off than before, my mom still gets disappointed in us when we get lazy and order a pizza or Chinese take out or take her to a nice restaurant etc.

That being said my grandma was the opposite, she was always busy with work (she is a seamstress) and so she would always take us to restaurants, plus she liked to spoil us.
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Old 01-21-2022, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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I haven't read the thread but I want to point out that I personally don't find some eastern European food very appealing.

For instance, once I was in Poland or Slovakia or some place like that and there were pictures of different foods on a menu so I ordered something that I thought was spaghetti. It was sweet and cinnamonny, though it was beef based. I didn't like it.

I could give a lot more examples but that one for some reason really sticks in my memory.
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