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Old 04-27-2017, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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Yes, because their appetite is automatically regulated. When they eat their low fat diet the energy reaches their cells; they feel full; and then they stop.



I'd be full for hours too but my energy levels would tend to sag. I'd also need to watch watch what I eat.




Ya think? Proteins with sugars surge insulin levels. A lean piece of chicken breast and rice doubles the insulin response of rice alone. And mono sodium glutamate also jacks insulin levels beyond belief. That would be less consequential if eating again meant just more rice and lean meat. Unfortunate its a completely devastating meal.

"Complete meals" are not good diets.
My energy level doesn't sag at all. In fact, my energy level is pretty high after a workout followed by a meal.

As for "complete meals" of protein, carbs, and fats not being good diets, says who again?

Like I've said ad nauseum, however anecdotal a person may say it is, I look and feel great and at the end of the day that's all that matters to me. I keep it simple like that. However I eat is enough to keep me fit, strong, and keep my health issues in check so I'm fine with that.
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Old 04-27-2017, 04:28 PM
 
Location: I am right here.
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When I hear this I think that people must mean the obvious "bad" carbs like refined sugar, bread, pasta, rice, cutting back on the corn and potatoes.

I mean you can't cut out carbs all together, even greens and veggies have some carbs and you can't eat just meat and eggs so really there isn't a way to completely cut out carbs, it's just the insulin spiking ones we wanna limit.
Some people eat no plants at all, only animals or animal products.
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Old 04-27-2017, 05:13 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Some people eat no plants at all, only animals or animal products.
Sounds boring and not to mention nutritionally deficient. When people enter phase 1 of Atkins it's advised to take a vitamin supplement during that phase of the diet because it's so restrictive.

Whatever, people can eat what they want. I am highly leery of diets that are too specific like a meat or animal product only diet. From what I've heard and read the Mediterranean diet seems pretty well rounded.
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Old 04-27-2017, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Wine Country
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Some people eat no plants at all, only animals or animal products.
How horrifying.
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Old 04-27-2017, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Really like what?

Here is a snickers bar:

https://www.fatsecret.com/calories-n...c/snickers-bar


Perhaps you'd like to explain the difference between having that healthy potato and healthy brie cheese together.


That would be more like potato chips, and we all know potato chips are nothing like a candy bar, don't we?
Potato, baked, flesh and skin, without salt Nutrition Facts & Calories

If you can read, you'll see the difference.
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Old 04-27-2017, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Texas
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So what? the carb/insulin hypothesis has already been debunked many times over. The fact of the matter is the healthiest and longest living populations on Earth eat a high percentage of their diet as carbohydrates. Some as high as 90% of their diet is insulin spiking/high GI carbs.
Go for it. Effects of Diabetes on Americans is well documented.
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Old 04-27-2017, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Glycemic Index Rating
Because potatoes are comprised of more than 92 percent carbohydrates -- in the form of sugar and starch -- they are relatively high on the glycemic-index scale. The glycemic index rates foods on a scale of 1 to 100 based on how quickly they raise your blood sugar levels. Foods closer to 100 elevate your blood sugar more quickly than foods on the lower end of the scale. Mashed potatoes and boiled white potatoes are 82 and 87 on the glycemic scale, respectively. Sweet potatoes are a little lower, having a glycemic index rating of 70, according to Harvard Medical School.
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Old 04-27-2017, 08:46 PM
 
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Hmmmmm. That is how I felt when I was low carb and ate what Peachsalsa does. I felt like crap most of the time. I couldn't get a good workout in for the life of me.
Again, I have no idea what a "low carb" diet means without details. There are many ways to go wrong with any new diet. Imagine eating carrots for the first time if you didn't know what it was. Do you eat the seeds, the stalk, flower , and why is the root so tough(because it already bolted).


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Contrary to what you might believe there is no 'one size fits all' type of dieting. Sure you can start talking about how the body processes certain foods but that does not tell the whole story.
Well I pretty much don't believe much of anything you say because its nothing but personal anecdotes with few details. It is far more likely you didn't follow it.


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A whole lot of folks do quite well not going low carb high fat.
Yeah thats what I keep saying. Did you miss that for the 20th time I said it? Can you read on your diet?

There are many carbohydrate based traditional diets that did not cause health problems. The main problem is the affluent, balanced, fusion diets that at best are overcome.
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Old 04-27-2017, 08:55 PM
 
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Do you have any clue what is being discussed?

Having a potato is not the same as having a potato on a ketogenic diet, which means you are combining it with fats, and even saturated fats. Are you going to rattle on endless nonsense? Do you know what the goal is an what the metabolic effects are ? "Nope, I'll just babble on the Internet"...

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Old 04-27-2017, 08:57 PM
 
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Some people eat no plants at all, only animals or animal products.

Better add organ meat to that. The risk of gout, kidney and liver problems goes up without raw vegetables.
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