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So, you'd rather have something not tested; in other words, tested on you...?
No, I would rather have something that is made with ingredients that are relatively harmless, or even edible. I would not want to put anything on my face or body that would be harmful to me or to another animal.
This is a false choice, but IF there were no cosmetics that are safe, stylish attractive and cruelty free, I would go without.
No, I would rather have something that is made with ingredients that are relatively harmless, or even edible. I would not want to put anything on my face or body that would be harmful to me or to another animal.
This is a false choice, but IF there were no cosmetics that are safe, stylish attractive and cruelty free, I would go without.
I wish there was a (voluntary) program for testing cosmetics, body products, and even clinical trials for medications on prisoners.
They could sign up to do it voluntarily, maybe for a reduced sentence or some privilege. No one would be as upset as they are about animal testing when you compare sweet innocent animals with convicted violent criminals. Even prison rights advocates would have to acknowledge that it's completely voluntary, and the prisoner would be compensated in some way. And that was we'd have testing results that are much more applicable to humans.
I'd make it a point to especially choose products that are "prisoner-tested."
Do you think our vanity is more important than the life or well being of another animal?
I think our health and lives ARE more important than the well-being of animals, yes. I can't share in the trendy thrill among humans being happy about serving as guinea pigs whatsoever! In fact, this sort of brain-washing is mind-boggling to me. Oh, and I don't subscribe to the theory proclaiming me to be "another animal," either.
I know lots of people who have participated in clinical trials for drugs. They were not mistreated at all, and they are usually compensated. Plus, most have said they felt like they had done something important that would help others.
There was no brain-washing. It just might not be something you'd choose to do, so you don't understand it. But many willingly and enthusiastically choose to to it.
I know lots of people who have participated in clinical trials for drugs. They were not mistreated at all, and they are usually compensated. Plus, most have said they felt like they had done something important that would help others.
Yes, there are such people. They're not exactly the majority of people, though. Also, hardly any of them would do it if it they didn't have certain conditions they're obviously interested in curing and are desperate. That's comparing apples to oranges.
It's true that a lot of people go into clincial trials to try to get help with their own problems and conditions that have seemed untreatable. But many do it when they're in good health. My college was near several large pharmaceutical companies, and lots of young male college students would volunteer for drug trials (I wanted to do it, but they were only taking males). I'm sure some were just motivated by the money. But lots were pre-med, chem, and bio majors who had a true interest in the science.
I really can't say what constitutes the "majority" of people who volunteer for drug trials, but you really can't either. I can only go by the 60-70 people I've known who have participated in clinical trials, but just in that small sampling, the majority have done it for either altruistic reasons or respect for science, along with the compensation being offered, and they did it with fully informed consent.
I don't boycott products that have used animal testing, as I know that most laboratory trials of drugs that involve animal subjects have strict safety and ethics protocols, and they minimize "suffering" as much as possible. But if I'm buying some cosmetic product that says no animal testing, I willl lean toward them, all other things being equal. I'll still consider price, quality, and my own personal preferences.
I have a little more of a problem with all the "over-kill" in cosmetic product testing. I'm not too concerned if my powder blush was tested on a rabbit. But some of the testing I've read about makes no sense science-wise or safety-wise. Like testing hair-removal cream on dogs, but instead of using the normal strength that would be on the market for humans, they test it at 10X, 50X, 100X the strength on the animals, until they get skin burns, eye damage, etc. I guess my common-sense wants to ask, "Why test it at 100X the concentration on dogs when people will never use it at that concentration?"
I'm more inclined to prefer human testing, as long as informed consent is given. Also, people will speak up and report something that's just discomfort, before it's actually pain. Most animals don't show pain via their behavior, as in the wild a sign of weakness would mean being a target for predators. So you don't know they have a painful reaction until it's very severe, or you can actually see lesions on the skin. Beside, the person can give more descriptive info, like it's a little itchy, it burns a bit, it's tingling, or ouch that really stings. Can't get that detailed info from other animals.
No, I would rather have something that is made with ingredients that are relatively harmless, or even edible. I would not want to put anything on my face or body that would be harmful to me or to another animal.
This is a false choice, but IF there were no cosmetics that are safe, stylish attractive and cruelty free, I would go without.
Same here. Animal testing is torture. I only use products that are not tested on animals. Some I buy, some I make myself. There are plenty of choices. You just have to be careful to make sure that the entire supply chain is certified. Many products say "not tested on animals" and while that may be true for the finished product, it does not necessarily mean that none of the ingredients were tested on animals.
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