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I actually agree, to a degree. Maryland, West Virginia, and Missouri are especially border like. Being split rather drastically between north/south (Maryland's southerness is in very short supply however, and unlike WV and Missouri, it fits in with the north far, far more).
I would still say Delaware is solidly northern though. Even the M-D line excuse is invalid because the "line" actually excludes DE.
Kentucky is hard to call a border state. Most of the state is still geographically southern as it sits on the same lines as Virginia. I think in the case of Kentucky, the Ohio river itself is still an excellent border.
To be fair I do agree with you also. I was kinda talking in general but for the most part you're right. I'm from one of the southern areas in Maryland and I will admit that the northern areas outweigh the southern ones, but I still like to throw the fact out there that the state is not strictly northern. Maybe i'm just bias, but I don't feel like no gosh darn "Yankee"
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To be fair I do agree with you also. I was kinda talking in general but for the most part you're right. I'm from one of the southern areas in Maryland and I will admit that the northern areas outweigh the southern ones, but I still like to throw the fact out there that the state is not strictly northern. Maybe i'm just bias, but I don't feel like no gosh darn "Yankee"
I have noticed that the southern culture of Maryland seems to be around the bay and along areas of the Delmarva. Would I be correct there?
I am curious though, how can you feel like a Yankee? What does it feel like?
I never felt like a Yankee. But people tell me I am anyway.
I have noticed that the southern culture of Maryland seems to be around the bay and along areas of the Delmarva. Would I be correct there?
I am curious though, how can you feel like a Yankee? What does it feel like?
I never felt like a Yankee. But people tell me I am anyway.
Yea that's about right. People also say that southern Maryland and western Maryland also have southern culture but i've never been to either so I wouldn't know. And to tell you the truth I figure feeling like a Yankee means solely feel like a northerner. That's actually a good question lol
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Yea that's about right. People also say that southern Maryland and western Maryland also have southern culture but i've never been to either so I wouldn't know. And to tell you the truth I figure feeling like a Yankee means solely feel like a northerner. That's actually a good question lol
Western Maryland is as southern as northern West Virginia. Which, is a mixed bag and more northerly.
I have a couple of good friends out there and they will tell you the same.
Western Maryland is as southern as northern West Virginia. Which, is a mixed bag and more northerly.
I have a couple of good friends out there and they will tell you the same.
Oh, I always wondered what it was like up there. I always figured it couldn't be too southern up there considering it's right next to south western Pennsylvania. I know people from there (SW PA) and they're not southern at all. But again that's why I just call my good ole MD a border state
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Oh, I always wondered what it was like up there. I always figured it couldn't be too southern up there considering it's right next to south western Pennsylvania. I know people from there (SW PA) and they're not southern at all. But again that's why I just call my good ole MD a border state
I actually agree, to a degree. Maryland, West Virginia, and Missouri are especially border like. Being split rather drastically between north/south (Maryland's southerness is in very short supply however, and unlike WV and Missouri, it fits in with the north far, far more).
I would still say Delaware is solidly northern though. Even the M-D line excuse is invalid because the "line" actually excludes DE.
Kentucky is hard to call a border state. Most of the state is still geographically southern as it sits on the same lines as Virginia. I think in the case of Kentucky, the Ohio river itself is still an excellent border.
Hmmmm. Really don't think so with the West Virginia.
Welll - now that I type this, rural West Virginia - driving around, checking it out - is less Southern, or Northern, or Eastern, or Midwestern, than it's own unique mountainous thing, and whether or not you like it or choose to look down on it is your problem, not West Virginia's.
Now you could say that about the entire South, New York (city and/or state), California, Texas, but it's REALLY f#$@ing true in West Virginia, the lovely land where the satellite dish is the state flower, and if you wanna get to Heaven, you gotta raise a little Hell.
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Hmmmm. Really don't think so with the West Virginia.
Welll - now that I type this, rural West Virginia - driving around, checking it out - is less Southern, or Northern, or Eastern, or Midwestern, than it's own unique mountainous thing, and whether or not you like it or choose to look down on it is your problem, not West Virginia's.
Now you could say that about the entire South, New York (city and/or state), California, Texas, but it's REALLY f#$@ing true in West Virginia, the lovely land where the satellite dish is the state flower, and if you wanna get to Heaven, you gotta raise a little Hell.
I never said I looked down on WV.
West Virginia is very much a border state. Wheeling is very northern, Charleston is very southern, and in between is a mixed bag.
Yes the state's geographical attributes are largely unique. But it's people have their similarities to neighboring areas like any other state's population would, as well as their uniqueness.
There really is no need to argue about this. If you look at maps on Ancestry (US Census), southern speech (red line across Ancestry map from Telsur Project, Univ. PA) and the map of religion in the US, the stereotypical Mason-Dixon line is fairly intact.
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That's actually a good question lol
