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View Poll Results: Which states are southeastern? (Multi-choice option)
Alabama 67 75.28%
Arkansas 28 31.46%
Florida 76 85.39%
Georgia 86 96.63%
Kentucky 27 30.34%
Louisiana 42 47.19%
Maryland 10 11.24%
Mississippi 58 65.17%
North Carolina 79 88.76%
Oklahoma 3 3.37%
South Carolina 85 95.51%
Tennessee 59 66.29%
Texas 7 7.87%
Virginia 61 68.54%
West Virginia 19 21.35%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 89. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-11-2011, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Center City
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Texas as a state most definitely has done its share of "whoring" itself out to the world, but that's mostly been the work of the backwards good ol' boys and bubbas. That's still no excuse for the media stereotyping and marginalizing the state the way they do. Unless you're suggesting that it's perfectly fine for someone to make sweeping generalizations about a place of more than 20 million based off of the actions of a few characters that have "represented" us in the past.

They highlight people like George Dubya and Rick Perry, and say "This is Texas", because that's the entertaining, stereotype-laced Texas that the world likes to see. Beyonce is another powerful figure who's from here, but you won't see many people associating her with the state, because she's not a "believable" Texan.

Would you be fine with everyone in the world assuming that all Louisianans looked and acted like Lil' Wayne?
People like Beyonce and Lil' Wayne are not the same as W and Rick Perry. Entertainers make it or break it on their own merits and their success is based on appeal that extends beyond any given state. Governors, however, are elected (and in this case RE-elected) by the people of a state and therefore do offer a good reflection on the values held by the majority of residents of their state. New Yorkers would not elect Rick Perry and Texans would not elect Andrew Cuomo.
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Old 11-11-2011, 04:19 PM
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Alright, who did it?

I noticed that (as of right now) there are 59 voters, but Florida has received 48 votes!!!!

How can someone not consider Florida to be part of the Southeast?
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Old 11-11-2011, 10:01 PM
 
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States that are Southeastern--better known as The American South:

Georgia
Alabama
Mississippi
South Carolina
Louisiana
North Florida (north of Orlando)
Tennessee
North Carolina
Arkansas
Kentucky (minus the Cincinnati suburbs)
South Virginia (from just north of Richmond southward, including parts West Virginia close to the border of current Virginia proper)
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Old 11-12-2011, 03:59 AM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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Alright, who did it?

I noticed that (as of right now) there are 59 voters, but Florida has received 48 votes!!!!

How can someone not consider Florida to be part of the Southeast?
Stupidity and bias.
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Old 11-12-2011, 10:41 AM
 
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States that are Southeastern--better known as The American South:
Why are these southeastern states better known as the American South as in the sense of excluding certain others who have the full credentials as well? By whose and what's definition?
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Old 11-12-2011, 06:36 PM
 
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Why are these southeastern states better known as the American South as in the sense of excluding certain others who have the full credentials as well? By whose and what's definition?

No other areas are a part of the The American South.


Texas is Texas--an amalgation of Southern, Mexican, Tejano, Southwestern, Western, and Midwestern/Great Plains.
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Old 11-12-2011, 06:56 PM
 
Location: New Orleans
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People like Beyonce and Lil' Wayne are not the same as W and Rick Perry. Entertainers make it or break it on their own merits and their success is based on appeal that extends beyond any given state. Governors, however, are elected (and in this case RE-elected) by the people of a state and therefore do offer a good reflection on the values held by the majority of residents of their state. New Yorkers would not elect Rick Perry and Texans would not elect Andrew Cuomo.
I'm a big fan of Weezy, but Texas can keep Beyonce.
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Old 11-12-2011, 07:44 PM
 
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Southeastern and Southern, while having a good bit of overlap, are not the same thing.
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Old 11-12-2011, 08:29 PM
 
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No other areas are a part of the The American South.

Texas is Texas--an amalgation of Southern, Mexican, Tejano, Southwestern, Western, and Midwestern/Great Plains.
I will give you this...which no Texan would disagree with (generally speaking) in that Texas is Texas. But the traits that make it so are really only the Southeast moved into a frontier western environment and make us unique.

However, with all due respect, this is nothing more than a superficial answer. So I am going to call you on it...to use poker parlance.

To start, what of Texas is "Western" in the sense it shares a common history and culture with the Rocky Mountain states of Colorado or Utah? I mean, any different than Alabama shares a common "eastern" history with Ohio?

And Midwestern? Oh lord...
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Old 11-12-2011, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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No other areas are a part of the The American South.


Texas is Texas--an amalgation of Southern, Mexican, Tejano, Southwestern, Western, and Midwestern/Great Plains.
The Great Plains are not all Midwestern. Texas and Oklahoma are overall culturally Southern states...even in the far western areas you can still hear Southern accents. There is absolutely nothing Midwestern about Texas.
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