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Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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Originally Posted by MassVt
One thing? Missouri harvests a lot of corn. As do Iowa, and Illinois, and Minnesota, and Wisconsin..
Unlike you, I have also lived in both the Midwest and the Northeast, and going from one to the other didn't require much of a adjustment at all. I could go from Wisconsin to Maine to Vermont to Illinois to upstate NY, and I would have no trouble talking about dairy farming, or hockey, or shoveling snow, or the Catholic Church, or Blue state politics, or enjoying freshwater lakes, etc, etc,etc. I don't particulary care what you decide about Missouri--just don't tell me about some wide chiasm between Midwest and Northeast, because in quite a few cases, it doesn't exist.
^^^This.
Not to mention that the Midwest and Northeast trade a ton of transplants.
Whether people like it or not, the two regions are culturally aligned and geographically associated.
I think the problem is that some people from the Midwest are mistaking the urban northeastern coast to be the entire Northeast. Which it is most certainly not. The Bos-Wash corridor dos NOT reflect on the Northeast as a whole. The Midwest has the mostly rural plains, the Northeast has the mostly rural northern Appalachia. In both areas there a great divides in culture from the urban centers.
Bear in mind that much of the rural Northeast tends conservative in the same way the rural Midwest does, with some exceptions like smaller college towns.
As a final note, ask any southerner if they think there's a difference. You'll likely get an answer along the lines of "a Yankee is a Yankee".
One thing? Missouri harvests a lot of corn. As do Iowa, and Illinois, and Minnesota, and Wisconsin..
Unlike you, I have also lived in both the Midwest and the Northeast, and going from one to the other didn't require much of a adjustment at all. I could go from Wisconsin to Maine to Vermont to Illinois to upstate NY, and I would have no trouble talking about dairy farming, or hockey, or shoveling snow, or the Catholic Church, or Blue state politics, or enjoying freshwater lakes, etc, etc,etc. I don't particulary care what you decide about Missouri--just don't tell me about some wide chiasm between Midwest and Northeast, because in quite a few cases, it doesn't exist.
Corn.
Thats all you could come up with?
Your Catholic analogy is laughable as applicable to MO, as is the snow shoveling one as well.
As far as the bolded comment, in quite a few cases, yes, it does.
Not to mention that the Midwest and Northeast trade a ton of transplants.
Whether people like it or not, the two regions are culturally aligned and geographically associated.
I think the problem is that some people from the Midwest are mistaking the urban northeastern coast to be the entire Northeast. Which it is most certainly not. The Bos-Wash corridor dos NOT reflect on the Northeast as a whole. The Midwest has the mostly rural plains, the Northeast has the mostly rural northern Appalachia. In both areas there a great divides in culture from the urban centers.
Bear in mind that much of the rural Northeast tends conservative in the same way the rural Midwest does, with some exceptions like smaller college towns.
As a final note, ask any southerner if they think there's a difference. You'll likely get an answer along the lines of "a Yankee is a Yankee".
Most Missourians refer to folks in the NE as Yankees.
Not from any cultural standpoint, its a definition.
Corn.
Thats all you could come up with?
Your Catholic analogy is laughable as applicable to MO, as is the snow shoveling one as well.
As far as the bolded comment, in quite a few cases, yes, it does.
You only asked for one. I could rattle off quite a few...
Quite a few Catholics in St. Louis and KC, but anyway..
The Midwest is much more than just Missouri, but not in your parochial mind. Maybe you'll visit other parts of it...someday.
Live: Morgantown, WV
Region: Mid-Atlantic (but if it had to be north or south, I say South)
I take quite a few day trips to Morgantown and have a really hard time calling it Southern. More like Northern Appalachia... not much different than Southern PA a few miles away. In my opinion, one has to travel South of Clarksburg to start feeling like he/she is in the South in WV.
You only asked for one. I could rattle off quite a few...
Quite a few Catholics in St. Louis and KC, but anyway..
The Midwest is much more than just Missouri, but not in your parochial mind. Maybe you'll visit other parts of it...someday.
Not a lot of Catholics in KC.
I do believe you meant to say the concentration of Catholics are in the Mississippi River Hills area, and along the Missouri west of STL, right?
The rest of your post is nothing but a personal attack and shows that you have nothing to bring to the table.
You have no idea where I have lived.
I only think of St. Louis as being Northern, but I have a hard time calling the rest of MO Northern. The are parts that are Southern, but the rest is neither Northern nor Southern.
I dont think most people here in Memphis think of MO as Northern, at least most people I talk to. Some even think it's a Southern state, which isn't correct
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