Would you advocate for a more liberal assisted suicide law in this country like in Belgium? (statistics, insurance)
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Assisted suicide is legal in 3 states, I believe. I feel if someone is medically determined to be in pain and unable to function due to their physical condition, they should be allowed to make that choice. I think the key words are "medically, physically and pain.'
The issue is whether what happens is allowed to happen openly with and within
understood standards or if it happens by way of the subterfuges you described:
"discreetly, and privately, and quite easily, without having a doctor".
Frankly what you appear to prefer scares me far more than the possible abuses of an open protocol.
The problem I have with that is they limit the drugs for people that are suffering and/or dying, because the drug is addictive or they may take too much (morphine or other pain killers). So the result is they prescribe too little, or the drug is not available. For me, if I'm dying, give me heroin if it stops the pain.
Provide the warnings and give them what they need, and quit assuming people are incapable of making decisions for themselves. The federal gov't has got to step away and quit treating people like they are imbeciles or mentally defective if they want to die. I remember many times my mother being afraid of her medication being addictive - she was dying, who the hell cares!!!!
You are wrong when you say I am "assuming people are incapable of making decisions for themselves"...not at all...
You're scared by adults making choices for themselves?
Or having that accomplished within a recognized set of protocols and with the advice of professionals?
I don't know where to go with that.
But I'll suggest you find someone close to talk it through with.
Absolutely, in fact we should consider going further and granting painless deaths to those who are seriously depressed, but are of sound mind (in terms of logic and knowing what's best for them). Many people's lives are unliveable for whatever reason. There is no cure for such people and many often attempting suicide anyway, some succeed and some fail, ending up paraplegic.
Until we can cure serious mental illnesses and illnesses that become terminal, why not allow a painless exit?
It's not up to anyone to "allow" (nor should it ever be) a "painless exit" Hombre, that's a personal choice, and there's nothing stopping people from making that choice right now...... for themselves.
You're scared by adults making choices for themselves?
Or having that accomplished within a recognized set of protocols and with the advice of professionals?
I don't know where to go with that.
But I'll suggest you find someone close to talk it through with.
No, MrRational, I'm not scared of adults making choices for themselves...that's just your erroneous interpretation of what I've said, and I hope your little "dig" (suggestion) concerning my competency made you feel real good...This is a debate, and it's such a shame when people like you, can't just disagree, but also feel the need to insult those who don't think like you.
No, MrRational, I'm not scared of adults making choices for themselves
Good. But please do us all a favor and spell out what you do think. OK?
So far I've only see you comment on how others make their points
and (as above) say what you don't think or agree with. In total it's all rather murky.
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Originally Posted by purehuman
It's not up to anyone to "allow" (nor should it ever be) a "painless exit"
...and there's nothing stopping people from making that choice right now... for themselves.
Is this indicative of your preference? Suggesting that people do themselves in painfully?
It's not up to anyone to "allow" (nor should it ever be) a "painless exit" Hombre, that's a personal choice, and there's nothing stopping people from making that choice right now...... for themselves.
Name one painless and effective suicide method that doesn't require a doctor.
It's not up to anyone to "allow" (nor should it ever be) a "painless exit" Hombre, that's a personal choice, and there's nothing stopping people from making that choice right now...... for themselves.
That is not true. You need to review some youtube videos of people seeking the right to die painlesssly.
Should I source some for you?
I have read that refusing nourishment, food and liquids, is not the worst way to go, assuming the person is quite ill to begin with. But would they allow that? We all saw what happened in Florida.
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