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Old 10-19-2016, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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Downloaded from Yahoo News on Sept. 8, 2004...

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WASHINGTON - Campaign mail with a return address of the Republican National Committee warns West Virginia voters that the Bible will be prohibited and men will marry men if liberals win in November.

The literature shows a Bible with the word "BANNED" across it and a photo of a man, on his knees, placing a ring on the hand of another man with the word "ALLOWED." The mailing tells West Virginians to "vote Republican to protect our families" and defeat the "liberal agenda."

Republican National Committee Chairman Ed Gillespie said Friday that he wasn't aware of the mailing, but said it could be the work of the RNC.
Please take note that this fear-mongering took place some twelve years ago; this was well before the same-sex marriage advocacy swung into high gear, and Yahoo is hardly recognized as free of bias.

And the demonizing of all conservative beliefs by citing a simplistic appeal to the Christian Right is no different than the Social Justice Warriors' constant pandering to the belief among the less-economically-astute that a huge amount of wealth is sitting in a vault somewhere -- ready to be "redistributed" if the Lefties have their way.

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Old 10-19-2016, 01:44 PM
 
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I was merely pointing out that there was firm basis for the earlier post you over-reacted to.
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Old 10-22-2016, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Please take note that this fear-mongering took place some twelve years ago; this was well before the same-sex marriage advocacy swung into high gear, and Yahoo is hardly recognized as free of bias.

And the demonizing of all conservative beliefs by citing a simplistic appeal to the Christian Right is no different than the Social Justice Warriors' constant pandering to the belief among the less-economically-astute that a huge amount of wealth is sitting in a vault somewhere -- ready to be "redistributed" if the Lefties have their way.
This kind of response ALWAYS happens though...
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Old 10-22-2016, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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This kind of response ALWAYS happens though...
Please explain yourself ... all I'm pointing out is that there are well-organized and not-very-questioning constituencies within both the Social Justice advocacy and the doctrinal Christian Right, and those two groups are near-polar opposites.

The growth of the highly-secular libertarian (please note -- lower-case "l") movement has led to the fragmentation of the Republican base, and the Democrats also appear to be forming two camps -- a committed-Socialist camp led by Sanders who will continue to beat the drums for "income redistribution", and an Establishment camp led by the Clintons, Biden and Kane, who seem to recognize that this is neither as easy as it sounds, nor as beneficial in the long run.

The point I want to stress again, is that until fairly recently, the Founding Fathers intended-or-not strategy of expanding the electorate, thereby expanding the percentage of people voting with more concern over what they had to lose than of any short-term gain, has worked well. But it seems to have lost some ground over the past thirty years -- at the cost of a decline in the "civic" vs the "social" conscience

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Old 10-22-2016, 12:44 PM
 
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Please explain yourself ... all I'm pointing out is that there are well-organized and not-very-questioning constituencies within both the Social Justice advocacy and the doctrinal Christian Right, and those two groups are near-polar opposites.
So Southern Democrats never used "don't vote Republican so we wont have blacks get rights" back in the 1950's and 60's? What about Democrats saying "don't vote Republican because then Roe V. Wade would be reversed," that hasn't happened? What about Republicans saying "don't vote Democrat because we'll see gay marriage legalized" up until reently? It's not what was said by the why and the how, the intentions.
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Old 10-22-2016, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Caribou, Me.
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How far to the right does one need to be in order to see today's Democrats as dangerous radicals? It is of course possible that as old white men age out of existence, and if the GOP keeps running candidates like Mr. Trump, that the party will simply fade out of national relevance, becoming instead some rarely thought of regional fringe party. But if that does happen, it won't have been the work of Democrats.

By the way, the PRI is the centrist party in Mexico with the PRD to their left and the PAN to their right.
You (and others) seem to really hate older, white men. Now of course, every older white man was at one time a newborn baby....a wicked creature, perhaps?? One worthy of infanticide, perhaps? Or should the extermination just happen at a certain age.....say, once past 60?? Is that when the being is untenable?? (Bye bye, Bill Clinton....)
The language you and others use towards this cohort reveals something to be ashamed of. But we are past that quaint notion in 2016, right??
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Old 10-22-2016, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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You (and others) seem to really hate older, white men. Now of course, every older white man was at one time a newborn baby....a wicked creature, perhaps?? One worthy of infanticide, perhaps? Or should the extermination just happen at a certain age.....say, once past 60?? Is that when the being is untenable?? (Bye bye, Bill Clinton....)
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It's as plain in this thread as elsewhere that some have never crossed over the bounds of some sappy Norman Rockwell painting.
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The language you and others use towards this cohort reveals something to be ashamed of. But we are past that quaint notion in 2016, right??
Bravo!

It's been a long time since I've seen a post that describes the mindset of, admittedly and thankfully, a small portion of the SJW contingent here, but make no mistake about it, the blind hatred is very real for some, as will be the desire to inflict punishment and settle scores if given the opportunity.

I think much of this can be attributed to the anonymity offered by the Internet, and the emergence of multiple (and often blatantly partisan) media, but we have, it seems, lost most of the civility that describes the scenes in my earliest posts in this thread. The educators who shaped my thinking in earlier times, men and women alike, would hang their heads in shame at what has been done to the system they built and served.

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Old 10-22-2016, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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You (and others) seem to really hate older, white men. Now of course, every older white man was at one time a newborn baby....a wicked creature, perhaps?? One worthy of infanticide, perhaps? Or should the extermination just happen at a certain age.....say, once past 60?? Is that when the being is untenable?? (Bye bye, Bill Clinton....)
The language you and others use towards this cohort reveals something to be ashamed of. But we are past that quaint notion in 2016, right??
I can't speak for others but I don't hate older white men. I hate idiotic people that claim they "Want their country back," so they can force pregnant women to term even if they were raped or face medical issues from their pregnancy, want to say whatever they want without societal sanctions for breaking norms and also don't want gays to be equal under the law. This is what I hate
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Old 10-22-2016, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Caribou, Me.
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I can't speak for others but I don't hate older white men. I hate idiotic people that claim they "Want their country back," so they can force pregnant women to term even if they were raped or face medical issues from their pregnancy, want to say whatever they want without societal sanctions for breaking norms and also don't want gays to be equal under the law. This is what I hate
No, it's some visceral hatred of older white men that I am talking about....a hatred that doesn't even require pretense these days. (Older white women get somewhat of a pass).
Can't speak for you....only you know for sure if you feel this hatred or not.
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Old 10-22-2016, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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No, it's some visceral hatred of older white men that I am talking about....a hatred that doesn't even require pretense these days. (Older white women get somewhat of a pass).
Can't speak for you....only you know for sure if you feel this hatred or not.
How do you know "people have this"? Do they type it or say it or is it a dog whistle that you hear when someone states say "get religion out of politics"?
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