Imbeciles cost us 500 Microsoft Jobs!!!! (Austin, Abbott: property tax, airport, homeless)

[KerrTown]

Originally Posted by DabOnEm

That and if it's not on the I-35 Corridor then the state won't pony up enough money.

That's why vote Blue and get the Austin & Dallas-centric GOP out!

Houston should consider seceding from Texas at this point. Not just tech, but other corporate relocations have been diverted to DFW by the state government with the incentives.

But honestly it would be a bad sign after becoming a tech hub that people are leaving in droves because COL is too high--like San Francisco. Probably smart to pass tech and court other industries because once tech is in town, be prepared for sky-high rents like Seattle and SF (and acts of public disobedience like the Google Bus attacks a few years ago). Non-tech workers will be like innocent bystanders being hit by stray gunfire.

[As Above So Below...]

Originally Posted by KerrTown

That's why vote Blue and get the Austin & Dallas-centric GOP out!

Houston should consider seceding from Texas at this point. Not just tech, but other corporate relocations have been diverted to DFW by the state government with the incentives.

But honestly it would be a bad sign after becoming a tech hub that people are leaving in droves because COL is too high--like San Francisco. Probably smart to pass tech and court other industries because once tech is in town, be prepared for sky-high rents like Seattle and SF (and acts of public disobedience like the Google Bus attacks a few years ago). Non-tech workers will be like innocent bystanders being hit by stray gunfire.

Oh please. DFW is a corporate relocation magnet not because the state forces them to go there. They can move anywhere in the state or the country they please. Houston just isnt as appealing to corporate companies that are moving. Sorry.

[shanv3]

Originally Posted by KerrTown

That's why vote Blue and get the Austin & Dallas-centric GOP out!

Houston should consider seceding from Texas at this point. Not just tech, but other corporate relocations have been diverted to DFW by the state government with the incentives.

But honestly it would be a bad sign after becoming a tech hub that people are leaving in droves because COL is too high--like San Francisco. Probably smart to pass tech and court other industries because once tech is in town, be prepared for sky-high rents like Seattle and SF (and acts of public disobedience like the Google Bus attacks a few years ago). Non-tech workers will be like innocent bystanders being hit by stray gunfire.

I dont know whats a tech hub means. Every company needs technology to survive. Especially not embracing Microsoft is just lack of common sense.

[shanv3]

Originally Posted by shanv3

I dont know whats a tech hub means. Every company needs technology to survive. Especially not embracing Microsoft is just lack of common sense.

And if it means having companies like Dell or HP or Apple or those hardware suppliers, then I am ok. But not for real tech companies like Microsoft or Amazon.

[EDS_]

Originally Posted by DavePa

The mere cities and states need to offer millions in incentives. The more debt they will gain to match Northern an Western states and cities.

Texas Debt clock is higher then Illinois despite a booming population.

In real time it is increasing. Despite corporate relocations it bleeds from the West especially now and still up North. Yet its population still surging too. as the debt matching and surpassing Northern states.

https://www.usdebtclock.org/state-de...ebt-clock.html

So more Corporate welfare is still the answer???

That's really poor analysis. Illinois nominally has a lower debt burden but it also has fewer people and much lower GDP.

TX debt v. GDP is in a better place than Illinois.

[KerrTown]

Originally Posted by As Above So Below...

Oh please. DFW is a corporate relocation magnet not because the state forces them to go there. They can move anywhere in the state or the country they please. Houston just isnt as appealing to corporate companies that are moving. Sorry.

The state incentive funds come from taxpayers from all of Texas. Most of the money has been used to prop up DFW and the high-tech industry in Austin and its northern suburbs. When a company desires to relocate to Houston, the state low-balls that offer compared to Dallas or Austin.

So the Texas GOP is using our money to inflate the DFW metroplex and Austin. It's obvious they are afraid of Houston natural ability to become Texas' primate Megacity. Don't forget the Lege's attacks on Houston with the annexation restriction law and other recent anti-Houston measures either.

Houston isn't into corporate socialism to entice dying companies (cash cows) to relocate. Maybe a few dollars to defray moving expenses, but that's it.

If I remember correctly, the oil industry didn't take a handout to centralize in Houston. Instead companies and executives gave back to the community; the world-class performing and visual arts scene is one legacy that they left of the philanthropic mindset from early-20th century American culture!

Originally Posted by EDS_

That's really poor analysis. Illinois nominally has a lower debt burden but it also has fewer people and much lower GDP.

TX debt v. GDP is in a better place than Illinois.

Honestly, Houston should be treated differently like Illinois treats Chicago: a separate chapter in the state Statutes. The anti-Houston measures need to stop.

But dealing with the I-35 traffic is very costly by itself. Look at the failed SH-130 toll road that was bailed out which bypasses Austin to the flatter east and ends on I-10 in Seguin, 40 miles east of San Antonio!

Not to mention the miles of interstates and the U.S. and state highways in various configurations (from freeways to rural two-lane roads) in different locations of this vast state. There is even a push to build I-14, despite I-69 not even remotely completed. The freeway construction and maintenance bill is a huge burden on state finances alone.

Meanwhile in Illinois, the state government concentrates on the few miles of expressways and tollways around Chicagoland that are subject to frequent wear-and-tear; unlike the interstates and other highways in Downstate. You couldn't do that in Texas as there are 2 1/2 metro areas worth of highway to maintain.

The suburban tollways in the affluent West, NW, and North Shore suburbs generate so much revenue to be self-sufficient! The Texas Triangle can not reap the synergy of Chicagoland with so many metros spaced far apart.

[EDS_]

Originally Posted by KerrTown

The state incentive funds come from taxpayers from all of Texas. Most of the money has been used to prop up DFW and the high-tech industry in Austin and its northern suburbs. When a company desires to relocate to Houston, the state low-balls that offer compared to Dallas or Austin.

So the Texas GOP is using our money to inflate the DFW metroplex and Austin. It's obvious they are afraid of Houston natural ability to become Texas' primate Megacity. Don't forget the Lege's attacks on Houston with the annexation restriction law and other recent anti-Houston measures either.

Houston isn't into corporate socialism to entice dying companies (cash cows) to relocate. Maybe a few dollars to defray moving expenses, but that's it.

If I remember correctly, the oil industry didn't take a handout to centralize in Houston. Instead companies and executives gave back to the community; the world-class performing and visual arts scene is one legacy that they left of the philanthropic mindset from early-20th century American culture!



Honestly, Houston should be treated differently like Illinois treats Chicago: a separate chapter in the state Statutes. The anti-Houston measures need to stop.

But dealing with the I-35 traffic is very costly by itself. Look at the failed SH-130 toll road that was bailed out which bypasses Austin to the flatter east and ends on I-10 in Seguin, 40 miles east of San Antonio!

Not to mention the miles of interstates and the U.S. and state highways in various configurations (from freeways to rural two-lane roads) in different locations of this vast state. There is even a push to build I-14, despite I-69 not even remotely completed. The freeway construction and maintenance bill is a huge burden on state finances alone.

Meanwhile in Illinois, the state government concentrates on the few miles of expressways and tollways around Chicagoland that are subject to frequent wear-and-tear; unlike the interstates and other highways in Downstate. You couldn't do that in Texas as there are 2 1/2 metro areas worth of highway to maintain.

The suburban tollways in the affluent West, NW, and North Shore suburbs generate so much revenue to be self-sufficient! The Texas Triangle can not reap the synergy of Chicagoland with so many metros spaced far apart.

The part about the GOP mistrating Houston is silly.

[KerrTown]

Originally Posted by EDS_

The part about the GOP mistrating Houston is silly.

The Michigan-style takeover of HISD is not funny either. So is the exclusion of the UH (and other university systems) from the PUF, considering that the 2/3 vote from the legislature can easily come from the GOP.

Luckily Tony Buzbee lost the mayoral election, depriving the GOP of a yes-man in the city government.

[As Above So Below...]

Originally Posted by KerrTown

The state incentive funds come from taxpayers from all of Texas. Most of the money has been used to prop up DFW and the high-tech industry in Austin and its northern suburbs. When a company desires to relocate to Houston, the state low-balls that offer compared to Dallas or Austin.

So the Texas GOP is using our money to inflate the DFW metroplex and Austin. It's obvious they are afraid of Houston natural ability to become Texas' primate Megacity. Don't forget the Lege's attacks on Houston with the annexation restriction law and other recent anti-Houston measures either.

Houston isn't into corporate socialism to entice dying companies (cash cows) to relocate. Maybe a few dollars to defray moving expenses, but that's it.

If I remember correctly, the oil industry didn't take a handout to centralize in Houston. Instead companies and executives gave back to the community; the world-class performing and visual arts scene is one legacy that they left of the philanthropic mindset from early-20th century American culture!



Honestly, Houston should be treated differently like Illinois treats Chicago: a separate chapter in the state Statutes. The anti-Houston measures need to stop.

But dealing with the I-35 traffic is very costly by itself. Look at the failed SH-130 toll road that was bailed out which bypasses Austin to the flatter east and ends on I-10 in Seguin, 40 miles east of San Antonio!

Not to mention the miles of interstates and the U.S. and state highways in various configurations (from freeways to rural two-lane roads) in different locations of this vast state. There is even a push to build I-14, despite I-69 not even remotely completed. The freeway construction and maintenance bill is a huge burden on state finances alone.

Meanwhile in Illinois, the state government concentrates on the few miles of expressways and tollways around Chicagoland that are subject to frequent wear-and-tear; unlike the interstates and other highways in Downstate. You couldn't do that in Texas as there are 2 1/2 metro areas worth of highway to maintain.

The suburban tollways in the affluent West, NW, and North Shore suburbs generate so much revenue to be self-sufficient! The Texas Triangle can not reap the synergy of Chicagoland with so many metros spaced far apart.

It’s liberal Alex Jones...

[EDS_]

Originally Posted by KerrTown

The Michigan-style takeover of HISD is not funny either. So is the exclusion of the UH (and other university systems) from the PUF, considering that the 2/3 vote from the legislature can easily come from the GOP.

Luckily Tony Buzbee lost the mayoral election, depriving the GOP of a yes-man in the city government.

The likely state takeover of HISD isn't funny. But it seems necessary from afar. Are you going to blame the GOP for HISD board members breaking all kinds of rules?