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I'm not concerned with resale, that was another posters point. I have a Maxima now...But the high output/front wheel drive combination just doesn't work well. The Avalon is a bit of a snooze fest.
My 1st gen Avalon is still silky smooth...amazing considering it has 230K mi.
I'm also a motorcyclist so "snooze fest" in a car just means when I get my 3rd gen Avalon within 2 yrs' time, there's more room to haggle
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Originally Posted by ohio_peasant
Resale value is an issue to buyers who are conscious of their effective per-mile cost, including depreciation. Priorities of course vary, but even people who pay cash for powerful sedans may nevertheless care for how much they'd be able to sell the car on Craiglist in 5 or 10 years.
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But returning to the question of resale and value, it may be worthwhile to consider ~3-year-old cars; not COPO or other dealership specials, but Craigslist private-party sale.
My counter is to go with mileage, instead of years: a 20K mi 3-yr-old car is not worth the hassles.
Ideal is a 110K mi car (4-10 yrs), 1) whatever that's major would have been taken care of, 2) if it's a flagship, then those would likely be highway miles, 3) society has brainwashed the seller to think that over 100K mi is too high--room to haggle.
From my observation, 10 yrs = 50% off retail, generally speaking.
But more if it's less well known: an '06-'07 Acura RL is going for $10-13K--from styling to performance to workmanship (it's Acura's flagship) this thing is a hidden gem--and just think about what type of people actually own an RL--double hidden gem
As for resale, like the OP, I am part of a dying breed: buy to own, including a future house.
*Even if I could buy a brand new car outright, I still wouldn't, for myself.
But I don't mind buying a new one for the wife or future children should they turn out to be boy-genius/girl-genius.
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If both are coming out pretty equal, call your insurance company. Is one cheaper to insure?
You really think someone spending more than $50K for a car cares about insurance for one being cheaper over the other?
No doubt I would choose the Lexus over Korean any day without a second thought. As a matter of fact, I can't think of any car where I would choose the Korean junk over any other. Like someone said, the resale drops on Genesis is max. There is a reason for that. There is more to compare than horsepower. Hyundai may have come a long way but there is a reason why they depreciate so fast. Like others have said, Audi or even CTS-V. I don't know of many problems with the CTS-V so if you want real performance and 600 hp, get the CTS-V, and buy stock in Michelin, you'll need it.
Hyundai interior quality is straight garbage compared to new Lexus cars. They're a good 5 - 6 years behind. And resale value is extremely weak. IMO, you'd be throwing that money away in terms of depreciation. Plus, the GS is so much nicer on the inside.
Ok, so I test drove the SS and while it does have some remarkable attributes its not really the same class of vehicle. A great sleeper car though, you'd never know from looking at it what it was capable of. So based on that I'm pretty sure a Charger isn't going to work either, and certainly not the Hellcat version, that's just a bit much for a daily driver.
And I like the post about Hyundai's being for posers, too funny!
Ok, so I test drove the SS and while it does have some remarkable attributes its not really the same class of vehicle. A great sleeper car though, you'd never know from looking at it what it was capable of. So based on that I'm pretty sure a Charger isn't going to work either, and certainly not the Hellcat version, that's just a bit much for a daily driver.
And I like the post about Hyundai's being for posers, too funny!
So what do you mean by not the same class of vehicle....the SS is more of a performance sedan versus the Genesis more of a luxury? I also will consider both of these cars in the next year if I sell or trade my beemer. If you can give more details about the test drive of the SS versus Genesis including the suspension, performance, quiet, look and feel, etc, I would appreciate it.
BTW, I'm not down on German cars, I've put over 100K on my BMW 7 Series and haven't had to have any service other than the regularly scheduled service. But they do depreciate fast and if you do need to have it serviced, not going to be cheap. I think Lexus are nice but ther´'s none of them that interest me currently.
Ok, so I test drove the SS and while it does have some remarkable attributes its not really the same class of vehicle. A great sleeper car though, you'd never know from looking at it what it was capable of. So based on that I'm pretty sure a Charger isn't going to work either, and certainly not the Hellcat version, that's just a bit much for a daily driver.
Interesting... if you don't mind, please elaborate on your road-test observations. One rarely reads objective reviews by prospective buyers. Were you disappointed by interior/luxury/feel/ride-quality? What about acceleration, braking, handling? What about general build-quality?
The Charger is 500 pounds heavier; larger, brasher and more of a "cruiser". I had a 3.6L charger as a rental car, driving it from NYC to SW Ohio. It was comfortable and quiet (by my reckoning). Seats were not particularly supportive. Interior quality was acceptable, but uninspiring. Performance was deeply disappointing, but then again it was just the 3.6L V6.
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