Official Discussion on the Mormon/LDS influence in Idaho (Boise: transplants, school)

[LeiGul]

Originally Posted by JamesinLittleRock

sergant, then explain why I was never once invited to ANYTHING SOCIAL from mormons growing up. hmm?
or why even neighbor kids couldnt ride bikes with me because I wasnt one of them. dont blow smoke. mormons are a tightknit bunch of people, who in my experience do not really accept outsiders at all.


flame away

You probably didn't get invited, because the mormons you were living next to were closed minded and afraid of the influence of the Neighbors that didn't think like they did. I wouldn't base your expereince on all LDS members, just those that are closed minded folk. And I think we all agree that closed minded people don't make the best people to be around whether they are Mormon, Catholic or Athiests.

It seems to me the problem that you have isn't against the Mormon religion, but those neighbors that couldn't see past the end of their noses. I would hate to have to live in a communty that is like that, I don't care what they believe. So please stop saying that ALL Mormons are like that, because we aren't. And those that are, are NOT living what their own religion teaches.

[JamesinLittleRock]

hahahaha
I'll leave you to your illusions. Most of the mormons I have come across are like that.

[fabforever]

I don't want to open a can of worms, but my subdivision is 89% Mormon and although my husband and I get invited to social events in the subdivision, my daughters are not allowed to play with the kids in the subdivision and the kids are not allowed to come to our house. It becomes quite obvious when as soon as my kids go outside, the LDS kids go inside and they decline every invitation to come to our house or to go places with my kids - such as the pool or the park. This has happened for 7 years, at two different neighborhoods I lived in. I actually confronted my LDS neighbor about it and she said when you become LDS, you are supposed to leave all your old friends and habits behind and that true LDS followers are not supposed to make last longing friendships with non LDS, some of this due to the fear that their kids will eventually want to have a relationship with non LDS kids and by this I mean getting married - which will lead to a marriage outside of the temple and they won't be accepted at the highest level of heaven. So they try and avoid deeper relationships with non LDS folks. This is something I heard from her and her husband and they are not afraid of saying what they believe in. Since hearing their reasoning, I respect their opinion and I stopped trying to make friendships with the LDS folks at my subdivision. I am not saying all LDS people are like that, but there are certain LDS churches that follow the religion word by word and therefore they don't want contact with non LDS and neither do they care to have friends with non LDS since they have all of their friends at the church and they all complete each other in their believes. I guess it is just hard to explain day after day to my 3 year old why she can't play with the kids outside, sometimes she screams from the window of our house and tries to talk to the kids only to be ignored. We are used to such behavior here where we live and we are happy to finally relocate from this area (we move in 30 days). I really don't want my daughters growing up with the idea that they are not good enough to play with the kids around them. The last comment made to us was that my daughter would be alone at the school bus because she doesn't go to the LDS church and therefore the kids wouldn't play with her. Also that she wouldn't be a proper girl and might corrupt the other kids. This was something a neighbor made a point to come and say to me a few months ago. After this specific comment, we put our house in the market and we are going far away from Idaho. I have nothing against Mormons, maybe pitty towards the ones at my neighborhood, but I believe we must live in a very extreme area - being a block away from the LDS church. So hopefully, it is different everywhere else. So as a warning, choose your neighbourhood wisely before you buy. Fab

[SergeantL]

Originally Posted by fabforever

I don't want to open a can of worms, but my subdivision is 89% Mormon and although my husband and I get invited to social events in the subdivision, my daughters are not allowed to play with the kids in the subdivision and the kids are not allowed to come to our house. It becomes quite obvious when as soon as my kids go outside, the LDS kids go inside and they decline every invitation to come to our house or to go places with my kids - such as the pool or the park. This has happened for 7 years, at two different neighborhoods I lived in. I actually confronted my LDS neighbor about it and she said when you become LDS, you are supposed to leave all your old friends and habits behind and that true LDS followers are not supposed to make last longing friendships with non LDS, some of this due to the fear that their kids will eventually want to have a relationship with non LDS kids and by this I mean getting married - which will lead to a marriage outside of the temple and they won't be accepted at the highest level of heaven. So they try and avoid deeper relationships with non LDS folks. This is something I heard from her and her husband and they are not afraid of saying what they believe in. Since hearing their reasoning, I respect their opinion and I stopped trying to make friendships with the LDS folks at my subdivision. I am not saying all LDS people are like that, but there are certain LDS churches that follow the religion word by word and therefore they don't want contact with non LDS and neither do they care to have friends with non LDS since they have all of their friends at the church and they all complete each other in their believes. I guess it is just hard to explain day after day to my 3 year old why she can't play with the kids outside, sometimes she screams from the window of our house and tries to talk to the kids only to be ignored. We are used to such behavior here where we live and we are happy to finally relocate from this area (we move in 30 days). I really don't want my daughters growing up with the idea that they are not good enough to play with the kids around them. The last comment made to us was that my daughter would be alone at the school bus because she doesn't go to the LDS church and therefore the kids wouldn't play with her. Also that she wouldn't be a proper girl and might corrupt the other kids. This was something a neighbor made a point to come and say to me a few months ago. After this specific comment, we put our house in the market and we are going far away from Idaho. I have nothing against Mormons, maybe pitty towards the ones at my neighborhood, but I believe we must live in a very extreme area - being a block away from the LDS church. So hopefully, it is different everywhere else. So as a warning, choose your neighbourhood wisely before you buy. Fab

I don't know whether Sage will allow this post to stand, but I simply have to respond. I don't care what you were told, but there is no such policy, teaching, or doctrine in the LDS faith regarding long lasting relationships outside of the Church. I have served in Bishoprics and High Councils and have never heard of any such thing. Anyone who has told you this must have significantly abused psychoactive drugs when they were young. It is counter to LDS beliefs and defeats one of the primary missions of the Church. I believe you, but I would advise that you look elsewhere for the real reason your neighbors are isolating you, because it's not for the reasons they have stated.

[fabforever]

I don't see why he should delete my post, it is just my experience with the religion and much like people have good and bad experiences with other religions, I too had my share of unfriendly experiences with LDS. As far as what I was told, I am not LDS so I can't confirm what is true or not, I have no idea of the teachings of the church and therefore I can only post what I have experienced and what my neighbor said to me. Is it possible that different LDS churches follow different teachings? I see nothing wrong with my post, I think it is nice to see the negative side also since the world is not perfect and neither are humans - so even LDS people can commit mistakes, I am sure.

[JamesinLittleRock]

Originally Posted by SergeantL

I don't know whether Sage will allow this post to stand, but I simply have to respond. I don't care what you were told, but there is no such policy, teaching, or doctrine in the LDS faith regarding long lasting relationships outside of the Church. Anyone who has told you this must have significantly abused psychoactive drugs when they were young. In your case, I suspect something else is going on, and what you were told was simply a cover up for the real reason.

funny how my own mother who is temple mormon has told me this after she converted and then tried to get me to convert as well. so have several friends who have went on missions. and the girl I dated after high school who broke it off because she was told to end it because I couldnt get her into heaven.

[Torrie]

You know I wish I could comment more on this thread, but due to my license, I'm not even going to go there. All I want to say is why do people have to "be something"? It just causes so much grief for everyone. Honestly sometimes I wish there was no such thing as religion. It only seems to create barriers amongst people instead of bringing them together.

[fabforever]

Torrie, why don't you create a different nickname and use it when you need to talk more openly about things. You could come here as 'Torrie' and not the realtor sometimes. I am sure you have a lot of good information to share and no one would know it is you (Torrie, the realtor) posting. I am not even sure this can be done - is it against the rules here? We do appreciate your insights and it would be nice to hear more from you, especially because as Torrie (the person, not the realtor) I am sure you know facts about the area we don't know. Fab

[Torrie]

No can do, not allowed.

[fabforever]

Originally Posted by Torrie

No can do, not allowed.

What a shame! We do appreciate your help though. Thanks, Fab.