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Other topic but, I feel so much better. I finally found the ignore button. I love a good debate, whether I agree or not but, I hate patronizing, arrogant comments. Immediately, I lose interest in what that person is saying......especially when they seem to be intelligient and have much to say.
Oh well, my other comment is that I have come to think that fighting this illegal immigration problem is like spitting in the wind......."they" will just keep breeding and take over the country by their sheer numbers in a few years.
So we should continue bad policies because they existed in the past? We shouldn't progress to have better policies that reflect whats going on?
So what basis are you using to call our policies bad? Reflect what is going on? In otherwords there are more immigrants that want to come here than we can accomodate in jobs and resources and that don't fall within our pre-determined quotas that best suits the interests of this country so our policies are bad?
So what basis are you using to call our policies bad? Reflect what is going on? In otherwords there are more immigrants that want to come here than we can accomodate in jobs and resources and that don't fall within our pre-determined quotas that best suits the interests of this country so our policies are bad?
The fact that there is an illegal immigration problem and that enforcement would cost too much. Coupled with the slow speed of assimilation and the high disparity between the children of illegal immigrations who are America and the rest of the population. These things are huge issues that are not addressed.
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The fact that there is an illegal immigration problem and that enforcement would cost too much. Coupled with the slow speed of assimilation and the high disparity between the children of illegal immigrations who are America and the rest of the population. These things are huge issues that are not addressed.
Malthusian theories are outdated btw.
For someone that doesn't even live in the US, you sure do talk alot.
You have never shown one bit of proof to anything you've posted on any thread.
For someone that doesn't even live in the US, you sure do talk alot.
You have never shown one bit of proof to anything you've posted on any thread.
Did you know that there are American who live abroad and plan to move back? Gee golly! Who would have known? Yeah I have posted proof. I given names of organizations, I've cited the dates of studies. So I gave you all the proof.
The fact that there is an illegal immigration problem and that enforcement would cost too much. Coupled with the slow speed of assimilation and the high disparity between the children of illegal immigrations who are America and the rest of the population. These things are huge issues that are not addressed.
Malthusian theories are outdated btw.
There are no or little costs associated with self-deportations. If you read any of the other threads in here you would know that most of us are for removing any incentives for illegals to come here or to remain here via mandated e-verify everywhere, no taxpayer beneftis such as healthcare, education, etc., more internal enforcement and removing the incentive of birthright citizenship. These things along with securing our borders better would cut illegal immigration down to a trickle. Even if we reduced illegal immigration only by 50% it is worth it.
There are no or little costs associated with self-deportations. If you read any of the other threads in here you would know that most of us are for removing any incentives for illegals to come here or to remain here via mandated e-verify everywhere, no taxpayer beneftis such as healthcare, education, etc., more internal enforcement and removing the incentive of birthright citizenship. These things along with securing our borders better would cut illegal immigration down to a trickle. Even if we reduced illegal immigration only by 50% it is worth it.
Really? What is 'self deportation'? First off, there are costs. Costs in hiring, costs to productivity, costs to a loss on consumer base. That's point 1. There would be costs to removing incentives to illegal immigrants for the shear problem of how do you determine illegality right off the bat? Do you have people prove at every instance they are illegal? Okay let's say that you do establish such a system. Now, if they stay (since they don't want to self deport) what costs would be associated with that lack of medical attention and schooling? Illiteracy has tangible economic costs associated to it. Lack of medical attention could result in international scorn (seeing how we are to be the example of the world, esp for human rights) as well as decreased productivity.
There are costs associated. It would be extremely naive to believe there are no costs. Anything you do has a cost and a benefit. The question is how to increase the benefits and reduce cost. Full deportation decreases some costs, increases other costs, and reduces benefit.
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Really? What is 'self deportation'? First off, there are costs. Costs in hiring, costs to productivity, costs to a loss on consumer base. That's point 1. There would be costs to removing incentives to illegal immigrants for the shear problem of how do you determine illegality right off the bat? Do you have people prove at every instance they are illegal? Okay let's say that you do establish such a system. Now, if they stay (since they don't want to self deport) what costs would be associated with that lack of medical attention and schooling? Illiteracy has tangible economic costs associated to it. Lack of medical attention could result in international scorn (seeing how we are to be the example of the world, esp for human rights) as well as decreased productivity.
There are costs associated. It would be extremely naive to believe there are no costs. Anything you do has a cost and a benefit. The question is how to increase the benefits and reduce cost. Full deportation decreases some costs, increases other costs, and reduces benefit.
So you think that illegals should be benefited when they're deported?
Give them all a new baseball cap as they cross the border in a southern direction.
So you think that illegals should be benefited when they're deported?
Give them all a new baseball cap as they cross the border in a southern direction.
What? Did I say that? I don't I did...
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