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Old 04-21-2011, 07:53 AM
 
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Which "claim" are you refering to? Their claim to a higer education or their claim of adopting Dr. King's non-violent protest ideals?

So if a group adopts Dr. King's ideal of non-violent protest, then applies that ideal, then thier claim of adpoting the practice is not ligitimate? How does that work?
They have no claim in this country as an illegal.

Their claims should be made with their president of their country.
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:08 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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They have no claim in this country as an illegal.

Their claims should be made with their president of their country.
thanks for not answering the question.
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:13 AM
 
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Neither, it is their claim that the plight of illegals is the same as the plight of Black Americans of which MLK fought to change that they are wrong about.
is this that difficult to understand?

the group claimed they adopted the principles of non-violent demonstations. not that their cause was anologous to black rights.
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:21 AM
 
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is this that difficult to understand?

the group claimed they adopted the principles of non-violent demonstations. not that their cause was anologous to black rights.
Apparently you missed this part.

"The group, made up of mostly students, believe their plight is similar to movement the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr."
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:22 AM
 
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thanks for not answering the question.
They should not be here to begin with.
They have no claim or demonstration that needs to be made.

What are they demonstrating? What cause?
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:33 AM
 
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is this that difficult to understand?

the group claimed they adopted the principles of non-violent demonstations. not that their cause was anologous to black rights.
They ought to stop trying to use MLK and just have Vicente Fox as the figurehead for their cause. Fox didn't promote violent demonstrations either but it would actually make sense for them to admit his cause is their cause.
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:34 AM
 
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Apparently you missed this part.

"The group, made up of mostly students, believe their plight is similar to movement the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr."
And you definitely missed this point...

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For any group to "attach" themselves to the civil rights stuggle led by Dr. King is ridiculous, but to follow the examples of "civil disbedience" and "non-violent" protest is not.
If you are going to get into a discussion, avail yourself of prior posts.
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Old 04-21-2011, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Which "claim" are you refering to? Their claim to a higer education or their claim of adopting Dr. King's non-violent protest ideals?

So if a group adopts Dr. King's ideal of non-violent protest, then applies that ideal, then thier claim of adpoting the practice is not ligitimate? How does that work?
Is your memory that short? Why don’t you tell me, since my reference to “claim” was in response to YOUR post?”

Allow me to refresh your memory. . .

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I dont know that every protest or protester claims to have adopted the practices of Dr. King. These students made that ]claim.[/b] to lump all protesters together is kinda simplistic...but if it helps you in minimalizing their claim...so be it.
You alone can explain what you meant by your reference to “claim,” not me, or anyone else. Regardless, without having a legal presence in this country, they have no right to “claim” anything, other than an assigned seat on a bus or plane for their trip back home.

Again, what illegal alien “claim” am I trying to minimize?
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Old 04-21-2011, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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is this that difficult to understand?

the group claimed they adopted the principles of non-violent demonstations. not that their cause was anologous to black rights.
Really?

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But the timing of the events has another significance according to Nancy, an undocumented student who has been actively advocating for the Dream Act for the past five years, "We really see a close connection and a parallel between our movement and the African-American movement and their experiences in the U.S. As undocumented students, were are constantly being denied certain rights in the U.S. and within our school campuses. We are fighting for our own humanity. A lot of tactics that we're using as undocumented students are borrowed frameworks that were established in the 60's with the civil rights movement." Since February is nationally recognized as "African American History Month," undocumented students hope to highlight parallels between the civil rights movement of the 1960's and the current efforts for immigration reform. As in the 1960s, students are once again at the forefront of political activism.
Will Perez, PhD: A New Civil Rights Movement: Undocumented Students for Immigration Reform
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Old 04-21-2011, 10:46 AM
 
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And you definitely missed this point...



If you are going to get into a discussion, avail yourself of prior posts.
I didn't miss any point. My remarks were based on what was actually stated in the article itself. No where in that article was it stated that these students were doing these demonstrations in order to follow MLK's peaceful protests. They were doing it to parallel their plight to the plight of Black Americans during the Civil Rights Era. In fact they got arrested for obstructing traffic and said they were protesting anti-"immigrant" laws. That is a blatant lie right there. There are no anti-"immigrant" laws.
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