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Old 10-27-2011, 09:06 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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There are criminal aliens. Both legal and illegal. Different subject.

same subject. if a person breaks the law, they are a criminal. it does not matter if you drove drunk and got caught with a bac of .19 or you crossed the border illegally. you are still a criminal.

 
Old 10-27-2011, 09:21 PM
 
Location: S. CA
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same subject. if a person breaks the law, they are a criminal. it does not matter if you drove drunk and got caught with a bac of .19 or you crossed the border illegally. you are still a criminal.
Nope. Simply a right wing fetish. Never true Never will be. Been an illegal alien perhaps 30 or 40 times in my life. Never remotely criminal.
 
Old 10-27-2011, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Tempe, Az
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Nope. Simply a right wing fetish. Never true Never will be. Been an illegal alien perhaps 30 or 40 times in my life. Never remotely criminal.
Gettin caught a 2nd time here illegally IS a felony. Fake IDs are a felony. Many libs say what I just said so it aint just right wing people.
 
Old 10-27-2011, 11:06 PM
 
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Gettin caught a 2nd time here illegally IS a felony. Fake IDs are a felony. Many libs say what I just said so it aint just right wing people.
The interesting thing about the fake IDs is that many are not very well made. If one looks at them closely, one can tell they are fake. BUT employers don't look very closely. Frankly they don't want to.
 
Old 10-28-2011, 01:00 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Nope. Simply a right wing fetish. Never true Never will be. Been an illegal alien perhaps 30 or 40 times in my life. Never remotely criminal.
Aww, Come on now. 30 or 40 times & never once
apprehened, right ? Still, it makes you a criminal,
Sorry.
 
Old 10-28-2011, 01:24 AM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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They clearly are aliens

They clearly are illegal

They clearly are undocumented

They clearly are immigrants

They can fairly be described as undocumented, illegal, alien immigrants.

Then everybody can be happy.

They may or may not be criminal.
Their very presence in this country is criminal. It is a criminal offense to be an illegal alien here as well as most other countries in the world.
 
Old 10-28-2011, 01:38 AM
 
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Their very presence in this country is criminal. It is a criminal offense to be an illegal alien here as well as most other countries in the world.
Actually in the USA it's a civil offense (at least for the first time) - BUT it is a criminal offense to illegally cross the border.
However it's very difficult to prove unless the person is caught red handed.
 
Old 10-28-2011, 03:43 AM
 
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Nope. Simply a right wing fetish. Never true Never will be. Been an illegal alien perhaps 30 or 40 times in my life. Never remotely criminal.

as soon as you cross a border illegally, you are a criminal. guess what, crossing the US border is a criminal act, hence you are a criminal. the USA does not have open borders, much to the dismay of democrats and some republicans.
 
Old 10-28-2011, 03:47 AM
 
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Yep.

Undocumented sounds nicer than illegal. Its called sugarcoatin the truth.
How about "Unindicted"?
 
Old 10-28-2011, 03:48 AM
 
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They clearly are aliens

They clearly are illegal

They clearly are undocumented

They clearly are immigrants

They can fairly be described as undocumented, illegal, alien immigrants.

Then everybody can be happy.

They may or may not be criminal.
Illegal is criminal.
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