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No legitimate reason? Did you read what happened? The trooper was well within his rights to try and disable the tires on that truck.
Yes, I read the story through, and my point still stands. This truck was out in the middle of the open, desolate desert, suspected of having drugs and posed no immediate threat to anyone, especially to the trooper and the helicopter. Opening fire was reckless, and incredibly stupid. There was literally zero justification for his actions and a little rational thought could have spared some lives.
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Where is your proof that many or most law enforcement officers in Texas are rotten apples?
I said that is the stereotype, which I don't think is even particularly debatable, even if you feel the stereotype has no merit.
I'm amazed that there was a helicopter, with sharpshooter, able to respond within a short amount of time, for an area that is not very populated. Why do they have a need for airborne snipers on a regular enough basis anyway? When that is viewed as a deployed asset, aren't we in a hammer-and-nail mentality?
I'm amazed that there was a helicopter, with sharpshooter, able to respond within a short amount of time, for an area that is not very populated. Why do they have a need for airborne snipers on a regular enough basis anyway? When that is viewed as a deployed asset, aren't we in a hammer-and-nail mentality?
As I am constantly amazed that no matter the circumstances any law enforcement agency or personnel that tries to repel illegal immigrants in any way shape or form (even where suspected drug smuggling is involved) is viewed as being evil by some in here.
I refer back to LR's post #2. "The tires were shot out, the driver lost control and 2 occupants died. DPS policy's general manual, which says troopers are allowed to use such force when defending themselves or someone else from serious harm or death. Shooting at vehicles is justified to disable a vehicle or when deadly force is deemed necessary. The tires were shot out and 2 of the 8 occupants were hit. Kinda hard to know they were under a tarp in the bed of the truck."
As I am constantly amazed that no matter the circumstances any law enforcement agency or personnel that tries to repel illegal immigrants in any way shape or form (even where suspected drug smuggling is involved) is viewed as being evil by some in here.
And I'm generally pro-law enforcement and pro-government (and can show you posts on this very forum where I come to their defense) so when I take a stand against them, it's usually for good reason. Look below.
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I refer back to LR's post #2. "The tires were shot out, the driver lost control and 2 occupants died. DPS policy's general manual, which says troopers are allowed to use such force when defending themselves or someone else from serious harm or death. Shooting at vehicles is justified to disable a vehicle or when deadly force is deemed necessary. The tires were shot out and 2 of the 8 occupants were hit. Kinda hard to know they were under a tarp in the bed of the truck."
Read the sentence directly before the one you quoted.
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troopers are allowed to use such force when defending themselves or someone else from serious harm or death
This situation does not meet that criteria. This truck was in a desolate, open area and no one's life was in immediate danger. There was no reason to open fire on the truck at that time, the trooper was out of line in doing so and people paid with their lives when they shouldn't have had to.
And I'm generally pro-law enforcement and pro-government (and can show you posts on this very forum where I come to their defense) so when I take a stand against them, it's usually for good reason. Look below.
Read the sentence directly before the one you quoted.
This situation does not meet that criteria. This truck was in a desolate, open area and no one's life was in immediate danger. There was no reason to open fire on the truck at that time, the trooper was out of line in doing so and people paid with their lives when they shouldn't have had to.
I disagree. The trooper was just trying to shoot out the tires to stop the truck. Drug smuggling was suspected and he had no way of knowing there were people hiding under the tarp and he wasn't aiming at the tarp. These people paid with their lives because they put themselves in harms way.
It is regrettable that lives were lost, however the root cause remains the same. People opted to violate our laws by entering illegally. They further compounded the crime by refusing to yield to the police. No where is it written that crime is a safe path to making a living. Had the illegals obeyed our laws all of them would more than likely still be alive today.
Given the amount of drugs smuggled across the border it was a reasonable assumption that this vehicle was being used to smuggle drugs.
Really simple, I agree, if they followed the laws they wouldn't have been in that situation.
Maybe foreign countries can use this in a PSA to educate their criminals on the risks of engaging in this type of behavior.
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