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Old 05-20-2014, 12:31 PM
 
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Using the Border Patrol’s own data and considering the relative ease with which drug smugglers and illegal aliens make multiple crossings into this country, the more realistic number is much closer to 60-70 million...When you multiply a half million by 22 years, then add the additional million criminal aliens to the total, you have 12 million illegal aliens. That is the figure which U.S. politicians pushing for amnesty constantly espouse. These same politicians never take the time to explain to us just how they came up with that figure... For many years, the number of apprehensions at the border have averaged about one million. When you then use the very conservative estimate that at least three times that many got away, over 22 years, along with all of the people who never return home after their visa has expired, you get a much different number.
This article is not recent, but gives a clear picture showing the 12 million # is flawed.

 
Old 05-20-2014, 12:39 PM
 
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This article is not recent, but gives a clear picture showing the 12 million # is flawed.
Silliness. There are a number of ways the number can be estimated and thinking it may be off a million or two - either way - is probably rational.

Fifty million would likely mean that most are alien beings from another space warp or such as there is no loss column available from which they could have come on the earth.
 
Old 05-20-2014, 12:57 PM
 
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This article is not recent, but gives a clear picture showing the 12 million # is flawed.
12 million may be too conservative, but 60-70 million is impossible.

Most of our illegal immigration comes from SOB and Asia.

Now, if you were to assume every Asian and Hispanic in the country were illegal, which they obviously aren't, there are only 60-70 million Asians and Hispanics in the United States, total, combined.
 
Old 05-20-2014, 01:57 PM
 
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In the OP we see a linked article ... an opinion piece ... providing absolutely no foundation for the assertion ... other than one person's opinon. When opponents of immigration reform post such things it only hurts the credibility of their argument. Calling the assertion absurd is being kind.
 
Old 05-20-2014, 01:59 PM
 
Location: southern california
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best guess i have heard was 20 million but we really dont know do we?
 
Old 05-20-2014, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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A Dave Gibson (what are his journalistic credentials again?) article saying a fifth of the U.S. population are illegal aliens is pure comedy. Put on his "Examiner" channel 7 months after the start of President Obama's first term as President, it then suggests that our current administration is not responsible for the vast bulk of illegal aliens in the United States. Five years later, if you believe all of the stories here that the waves of illegal aliens are continuing, even encouraged by President Obama, the number now has to be closer to 80 to 90 million.

A little over a year ago, "malamute" (responding to a thread I started) said that illegal aliens were almost doubling in number every four years:

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Well the estimates of illegals are always on the low side and you can estimate by the number of abandoned houses in Mexico that immigration to the USA is far higher than the US government estimates which of course has it's reasons for serious underestimates.

Then you can look at the statistics that are given like in this article which shows an almost doubling of illegals every 4 years.

Top 10 States Being Invaded By Illegal Immigrants - Insider Monkey...
 
Old 05-20-2014, 02:16 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Not only are there actually 130 million illegals living in America, but another 15 million are pouring across the border EVERY SINGLE DAY.

And anyone who disputes those numbers is an illegal-loving progressive multiculti fascist liberal who wants to destroy America and its culture.
 
Old 05-20-2014, 02:21 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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doubling in number every four years:
Which means that by 2026 there will (if we take the 60 million figure as correct) be 480 million illegals in the U.S. -- and the total population of Mexico and Central America will be approximately zero. ¡Ay caramba!
 
Old 05-20-2014, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Pa
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I don't know how many illegals are here. No one does. What I do know is that we need to pass laws like E-verify and make life impossible for them. No rewards, no free pass.
 
Old 05-20-2014, 04:32 PM
 
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I don't know how many illegals are here. No one does. What I do know is that we need to pass laws like E-verify and make life impossible for them. No rewards, no free pass.
I agree.

If this so-called nightmare of an "immigration reform" bill passes, I think that politicians will be surprised at how many illegal aliens will come out of the woodwork. When the 1986 amnesty passed, they were surprised that about twice as many applied than was expected.
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