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They have no interest in punishing employers, even states like Texas and AZ have refused to pass tough legislation on companies that hire illegal immigrants,. But they aren’t afraid of passing legislation against sanctuary cities.
Could you people be any more disingenuous? There is no way the left would stand for tough legislation, or any kind of serious crack down on working while illegal. The threat of jail time for employers would lead to all sorts of ramifications for suspected illegal workers that you would rail against.
People here illegally don't get welfare. If they have a child born here, the child is a citizen and the child is entitled to services. But that doesn't mean that child's parents are getting healthcare and such. Change the law that makes every person born here a citizen. That and prosecuting those who employ them would be deterrents.
But like I said, lawmakers don't really want to stop illegal immigration because our entire economic infrastructure depends on them.
Yes, they do. Prosecuting employers does not curb the incentive to come illegally to abuse our welfare system. You can lock up employers all you want and they will still cross here illegally to exploit the generous welfare system.
You can deny it all you want, but they get a multitude of benefits for their own use and by the extension of having babies. They can walk into any hospital and receive free healthcare at any moment; they qualify for "free scholarships" and free education programs in many states (this is especially true in sanctuary cities); they can go into any shelter system and qualify for "Free subsidized housing", and they can receive free food via their children and through other non-federal services.
I'm for a multitude of ways or stopping this--YES, the wall, YES prosecute employers who hire them; YES add more border security, and YES change the laws of people becoming "automatic" citizens.
Dems just don't want to stop it because they need to continue ballooning their base.
Geez, another one I have to school??? The walls that are being breached are the flimsy fences that congress had built under the Secure Fence Act back in 2006. They initially agreed to build a double barrier along 700 miles of the most porous areas of the border but only 30 miles of that was actually built under Obama. Where those good walls were built I have already posted numerous links proving how well they work. Did you miss them?
Not all illegals are here to work. Certainly criminals, terrorists and the drug cartels aren't looking for work. E-verify will only remove the incentive for those coming here for economic opportunity but without denying their kids our birthright citizenship also they'd still come for all the benefits of that. I want e-verify mandated nation wide and so do most conservatives. It was the Republicans who presented a bill for it but it was voted down by the Democrats. Did you miss that link to? Trump has e-verify in his 2019 budget. Let's see how that goes down with the Democrats this time around.
You are speaking of a minority of conservatives that don't want illegal immigration to end to gain profit from them and there are just as many Democrat businessmen that hire them as well and don't want the flow of cheap labor to stop. We'd also need to figure out a way to stop them from paying their illegal workers cash.
Stop speaking for most "regular" conservatives. They want illegal immigration stopped and our border secured and they don't hire them for profit. As for cheap goods that's a joke. Those who hire them don't pass any savings unto the consumer what they do pass on to the taxpayer are their social costs to the tune of over $100 billion a year. Those so-called cheap goods aren't so cheap after all, are they?
Most illegals are not working on farms either. Only 2-4% are while the rest have taken jobs that once paid a fair wage to Americans. Also, there are unlimited visas for legal, foreign farm workers so who needs illegals to pick crops?
The wall should be a part of the solution that doesn't mean that e-verify shouldn't be mandated also We need a total package to deter illegal immigration not a piece meal one. A good physical barrier assists the Border Patrol to do their job more effectively and better to deter as many illegals at the border as we can than to allow them to get in here where they are much harder to weed out and more expensive to do so.
You have schooled no one. In fact, all your efforts have had just the opposite effect on me personally.
Because of your closed mindness on this subject I am more against any wall, any fence ... even a line drawn in the sand, than ever before.
When Texas and Florida, two states 100% controlled by the GOP and that harbor vast numbers of undoc workers, do full e-verify then we can talk further. Until then, this is the equiv. of an dope smoker telling us they want to jail all dope smokers.
Could you people be any more disingenuous? There is no way the left would stand for tough legislation, or any kind of serious crack down on working while illegal. The threat of jail time for employers would lead to all sorts of ramifications for suspected illegal workers that you would rail against.
Well, "the left" "allowed" legislation in many states that enforce e-verify.
And "the left" has ZERO say in Texas State Government or in Florida State Government and it's been that way for decades.
disingenuous? Think about it.
Both states take the position they do because the wealthy people in this states BENEFIT from having "slaves" - that being employees that can't complain, that can be mistreated and that are cheap.
This is the situation and until you realize it you will be misinformed.
Now, I'm not claiming that MA. or VT. is going to do E-Verify tomorrow. But, then again, they are not states with millions of undocs in them.
Surely you know that much? When you try to solve a problem, you start with the biggest parts of it....cut off Texas and Florida and you are well on the way. Jail a couple employers and put tax fraud on their records. In fact, put tax fraud on thousands of records.....of the employers.
We're not talking a few employers. We're talking the big guns in construction, meat packing, hospitality and many other industries. Of course, the Big Bosses don't personally sign the hiring statements. They know all too well how to do it -3rd and 4th party shell companies that "hire" the workers. All subcontracted at arm's length.
The question is, why not try a more cost-effective remedy first, before putting out so much money? What have we got to lose?
The wall will take years. A strong, strictly enforced E-verify program could be put in place in a matter of months. But that would only happen if Donald Trump truly wanted to stop undocumented workers from coming.
It would take Democrats about 3 seconds to switch gears and tell America that e-verify is racist and the GOP hates brown people because they want it strictly enforced across the US. We know this game already, Democrats want to import a voter base no matter what it takes.
Could you people be any more disingenuous? There is no way the left would stand for tough legislation, or any kind of serious crack down on working while illegal. The threat of jail time for employers would lead to all sorts of ramifications for suspected illegal workers that you would rail against.
Trump had a friendly Congress for two years. Why didn't he ever push for it?
It would take Democrats about 3 seconds to switch gears and tell America that e-verify is racist and the GOP hates brown people because they want it strictly enforced across the US. We know this game already, Democrats want to import a voter base no matter what it takes.
So the Republicans did nothing over the last two years of total control because they were afraid of what the Democrats might say? Is that really what you're going with?
Could you people be any more disingenuous? There is no way the left would stand for tough legislation, or any kind of serious crack down on working while illegal. The threat of jail time for employers would lead to all sorts of ramifications for suspected illegal workers that you would rail against.
The Texas legislature refused to pass tough penalties for E-verify, no one would confuse them as left. But they did take on sanctuary cities, no why do you suppose they didn't take on businesses employing illegal immigrants.
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While Legislature passed "sanctuary" bill, E-Verify enforcement fell short
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The walls that are being breached are the flimsy fences that congress had built under the Secure Fence Act back in 2006. They initially agreed to build a double barrier along 700 miles of the most porous areas of the border but only 30 miles of that was actually built under Obama. Where those good walls were built I have already posted numerous links proving how well they work. Did you miss them? 
