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Old 01-26-2010, 09:55 PM
 
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Of all those, this pisses me off the most.
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4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal , whose births were paid for by taxpayers.
This is so much BS. When my gf's family can't even afford to get medical insurance, oh and U.S. citizens at that, and those effer's are popping out babies left and right. Ugh. At least if you are gonna let them over with no repercussions force their effin arses to take birth control or force then to have effing abortions. After all most of them will grow up to be criminals anyways and have no significance to society.
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Old 01-26-2010, 10:05 PM
 
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It pains me to read exaggerations of a serious problem. It is so easy to poke holes into the ridiculousness of illegal immigration without stuff like this.
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Old 01-27-2010, 08:34 AM
 
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It pains me to read exaggerations of a serious problem. It is so easy to poke holes into the ridiculousness of illegal immigration without stuff like this.
Have you done any research on how many babies are born from illegal aliens on our dime? I have and it is astounding. So no, it isn't an exaggeration at all.
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Old 01-28-2010, 09:04 AM
 
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9. 21 radio stations in L. A. are Spanish speaking.

10. In L. A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9 million speak Spanish. These facts are close to the actual numbers, though the language figures are deceptive.

An annual census survey asks people if they "speak a language other than English at home."

According to the most recent report, 3.7 million county residents speak Spanish. But more than half of those Spanish speakers answered that they also speak English "very well." Only one in 10 Spanish speakers said they don't speak any English at all.
This one alone shows the flaws in your "facts". If so many illegals could speak English then their kids shouldn't need all the ESL classrooms in the schools and there would be no need to marque uno para escuchar en espanol y dos para ingles and all the radio and television broadcast in a foreign language. Welfare social workers wouldn't be required to speak fluent Spanish.
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Old 01-28-2010, 10:46 AM
 
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This one alone shows the flaws in your "facts". If so many illegals could speak English then their kids shouldn't need all the ESL classrooms in the schools and there would be no need to marque uno para escuchar en espanol y dos para ingles and all the radio and television broadcast in a foreign language. Welfare social workers wouldn't be required to speak fluent Spanish.
This assumes that people who speak multiple languages always desire to speak in English. Many times, its easier to speak in their native language. My mom still wants me to explain some concepts in French, even though she is fluent in English.
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Old 01-28-2010, 11:35 AM
 
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This one alone shows the flaws in your "facts". If so many illegals could speak English then their kids shouldn't need all the ESL classrooms in the schools and there would be no need to marque uno para escuchar en espanol y dos para ingles and all the radio and television broadcast in a foreign language. Welfare social workers wouldn't be required to speak fluent Spanish.
Some bleeding hearts think that immigrants want to be spoken to in their native tongue rather than English even if they know English so we should accomodate them so that they feel all warm and fuzzy. I say BS! How many different langauges would our American workers need to know in order to accomodate them? There should be no expectation of immigrants to be spoken to in their native tongues when they know English or even if they don't.
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Old 01-28-2010, 08:43 PM
 
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Some bleeding hearts think that immigrants want to be spoken to in their native tongue rather than English even if they know English so we should accomodate them so that they feel all warm and fuzzy. I say BS! How many different langauges would our American workers need to know in order to accomodate them? There should be no expectation of immigrants to be spoken to in their native tongues when they know English or even if they don't.
It's not about feeling "warm and fuzzy"...it's about accurate communication. You wouldn't understand, it's a little over your head.
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Old 01-28-2010, 09:45 PM
 
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This one alone shows the flaws in your "facts". If so many illegals could speak English then their kids shouldn't need all the ESL classrooms in the schools and there would be no need to marque uno para escuchar en espanol y dos para ingles and all the radio and television broadcast in a foreign language. Welfare social workers wouldn't be required to speak fluent Spanish.

Their is no law prohibiting the choice of an individual to speak whatever language they choose. This applies to Citizens and immigrants illegal or not residing in the USA. Becuase California is taught K-12 education in the English language, the State is then obligated to teach English to those students deficient in the language. Bilingual education was normal in California prior to the 1998 Proposition 227. After the passage of Prop 227 students who lacked proficient English are given a fact track 1 year English emersion program. After completion of this one year English course the student is returned to the general class program. Some say that this was detrimental to the students and is a precursor to why so many Hispanics drop out of High School. They cannot understand the English Language thus ESL classes are necessary. However some pundits will disagree.

In the event that ZERO illegals were in the Los Angeles area, there would still be an enormous Hispanic-American presence who by choice will speak Spanish and quite possibly prefer public discourse in Spanish. In case you don't know over 35 million Americans speak Spanish.

It seems like you have a problem with the Spanish language more then the Spanish language has a problem with you!

English is only the de facto language of the USA and nothing more!

Remember that!
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Old 01-28-2010, 09:56 PM
 
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Some bleeding hearts think that immigrants want to be spoken to in their native tongue rather than English even if they know English so we should accomodate them so that they feel all warm and fuzzy. I say BS! How many different langauges would our American workers need to know in order to accomodate them? There should be no expectation of immigrants to be spoken to in their native tongues when they know English or even if they don't.
Then try to make English the Official Language of the USA. Nativist been trying that for centuries.

Pontificating that a West Germanic imported language of English is the divine and righteous language of todays North America is one can short of a six pack considering no Congress can even make it the official language of the USA in the first place.

Any how why the arrogance? English is spoken by 80% of the USA population.

What are you worried about?
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Old 01-28-2010, 10:28 PM
 
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<<Any how why the arrogance? English is spoken by 80% of the USA population.>>

Why the Hispanic arrogance to think that we should cater to them, when there are many different lahguages spoken in this country? They seem to think just because they're the majority of non-English speakers, because they comprise the majority of illegal aliens, that we should accomodate them. Are those who speak Spanish ready to learn Arabic to appease those from Arab countries? How about Chinese? After all, there are sizeable numbers here who speak Arabic and Mandarin, or is it just all others are expected to cater to Spanish speakers?
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