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I have yet to see a thread by an anti immigrant member slamming the employers. Ok, maybe one or two out of hundreds. Sure, they will respond to this thread by stating they are against the employers, and that will be the end of it and they will go back to slamming the immigrants. They pay lip service and nothing more. Can someone explain to me why
Because most all of them are self employed and don't work in a chicken processing plant.
Why don't both of you use the search feature on this forum. EVERY member I know who is against illegal immigration is angry at the employers and the federal government as well. We have suggested the exact things in the above post. Your posts are flat out lies, no one's buying it.
I've searched the forum and have found 0 threads started by you slamming employers who hire illegal immigrants, yet you have dozens of threads slamming the illegal immigrants. To quote Desi Arnex, You got some splainin to do.
I have yet to see a thread by an anti immigrant member slamming the employers. Ok, maybe one or two out of hundreds. Sure, they will respond to this thread by stating they are against the employers, and that will be the end of it and they will go back to slamming the immigrants. They pay lip service and nothing more. Can someone explain to me why
First off who are these anti-"immigrant" members you speak of? I only know of those in here who are anti-illegal alien.
There have been hundreds if not thousands of posts dedicated to putting a lot of the blame on the employers so you apparently don't know what are talking about. We blame both guilty parties and that is the employers and the illegal employees. The problem with the pro-illegals is that they don't want to put any blame on the illegals at all. Can you explain that one?
First off who are these anti-"immigrant" members you speak of? I only know of those in here who are anti-illegal alien.
Anyone that calls for "closing the border" is anti immigration. How can you have any type of immigration, legal or not, if the border is closed?
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There have been hundreds if not thousands of posts dedicated to putting a lot of the blame on the employers so you apparently don't know what are talking about.
Show me 3 threads made by the anti illegal immigrant crowd that slam employers. All I ask is for three. You'd have to go back months.
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We blame both guilty parties and that is the employers and the illegal employees. The problem with the pro-illegals is that they don't want to put any blame on the illegals at all. Can you explain that one?
Nice attempt to derail the post, aint fallin for it. Try again.
I have yet to see a thread by an anti immigrant member slamming the employers. Ok, maybe one or two out of hundreds. Sure, they will respond to this thread by stating they are against the employers, and that will be the end of it and they will go back to slamming the immigrants. They pay lip service and nothing more. Can someone explain to me why
You obviously aren't talking to me so I'll move on.
I've searched the forum and have found 0 threads started by you slamming employers who hire illegal immigrants, yet you have dozens of threads slamming the illegal immigrants. To quote Desi Arnex, You got some splainin to do.
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And Mexico's government wants their poor here so that Mexico doesn't have to take care of them. Mexico's government is just as much to blame for the problem as our own. I hope that I get to see the day when Mexico is turned into a successful economy where people want to live. More Mexican nationals need to make a stand for change for that to happen though.
It's a greed issue from both sides. Lowest labor cost + higher prices = maximum profit. The rich get richer, and the rich control politcians. The American people are left to be pissed of with nothing they can do about it, until we're loud enough that the politicians start to listen.
The businesses hiring vast numbers of illegals are the ones paying off politicians to vote against stopping illegal immigration, having them held responsible and punished wouldn't be good politics and would cease their bribe money.
Getting rid of the 14th amendment loophole, cutting social services to illegals, and severely punishing employers caught employing illegals will give them no reason to come here, thus the incentive to stay in their own country.
True, I'm sure some would find a way, but it would cut it down considerably I think. I think in additon to punishing employers we should increase the punishment for falsifying documents. While some will always find a way, there's some pretty basic things we could be doing now to cut it way, way down.
To a point you're right, if we deported everyone today 90% of them would be back within a few months time. If we got rid of sanctuary cities, cut off benefits for illegals, severely punished employers for hiring illegals, and got rid of the 14th amendment loophole, they would all leave by themselves at no cost to us, and they wouldn't come back because there would be nothing here for them.
You want more, do your own research, but at the least do a LITTLE research before you make yourself look foolish.
I have yet to see a thread by an anti immigrant member slamming the employers. Ok, maybe one or two out of hundreds. Sure, they will respond to this thread by stating they are against the employers, and that will be the end of it and they will go back to slamming the immigrants. They pay lip service and nothing more. Can someone explain to me why
Funny you mention this. While many people acknowledge employers are placed under high blame, people would rather focus on stories of illegal immigrants committing violent crimes. There are at least two recent threads about sexual abuse committed by illegal aliens.
Take this scenario into account: When you leave food out, ants are going to get to it eventually. What happens when you take the food away from the ants? They're going to eventually leave. Why spend so much money on Raid to kill the ants, when all you have to do is take the food away?
Same can be applied to our situation. You take the jobs away (which is the primary reason for them being here) and no more illegal immigrants. It really is that simple.
Why don't both of you use the search feature on this forum. EVERY member I know who is against illegal immigration is angry at the employers and the federal government as well. We have suggested the exact things in the above post. Your posts are flat out lies, no one's buying it.
Precisely. Every single one of us has offered up as part and parcel of a solution to illegal immigration:
Heavily fine and/or imprison all companies or individuals found to be employing illegal aliens.
You (the OP, et al) don't see these posts because you don't WANT to see these posts. It fits in nicely with your political agenda to accuse us all of racism and hatred against illegal immigrants. Acknowledging the fact that we are equally frustrated with the people whose failure to follow the law assists in luring illegal immigrants to this country simply doesn't fit well into the pablum the pro-illegal alien advocates are spoon feeding you.
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