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Old 04-27-2019, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Was Midvalley Oregon; Now Eastside Seattle area
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Finally some one has asked whether OP's money is in deferred or in taxable vehicles.
Our Discretionary funds are 75% tax qualified; I trade in tax qualified and non qualified accounts. Most of my trading is in the qualified account. I hate taking losses in the qualified accounts because of this type of tax asymmetry.
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Old 04-27-2019, 10:36 AM
 
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trading in a tax advantaged account has it's good and its bad ...

the bad is you can harvest gains and if you have room in the zero capital gains bracket they are tax free in a taxable account ....

you can pass all gains to heirs tax free at a stepped up basis unless you are over the limits from a taxable account .

you can write off losses and mitigate them in a taxable account ....
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Old 04-27-2019, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Was Midvalley Oregon; Now Eastside Seattle area
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^someone needs to ask OP. Each to his own
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Old 04-27-2019, 11:31 AM
 
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Yes, I'm trying to time the market.
Bad idea.

If you must get more conservative, it should be at the margins. IE if your stock/bond allocation was 60/40 at the beginning of the year and now it's out of whack, you rebalance it back to where it was, maybe notch it a little more conservative to 55/45.

Being very black/white all-or-nothing about it is almost always a horrible idea.
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Old 04-27-2019, 03:46 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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All the previous market downturns, I was too lazy and neglectful to pull my retirement out of stocks, and then I kicked myself afterwards. But we did it today. Moved everything (which had all been in a very broad stock index fund) into money market. This is the longest bull market we've ever seen, and I don't see any justification for it.

Now I have to figure out where to invest the money in anticipation of a downturn, that will allow me to jump back into stocks 'when there's blood in the streets'. Yes, I'm trying to time the market.
Man, I leave for two weeks and the whole Internet goes berserk.

What am I gonna do with you guys?

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Old 04-27-2019, 04:39 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Bad idea.

If you must get more conservative, it should be at the margins. IE if your stock/bond allocation was 60/40 at the beginning of the year and now it's out of whack, you rebalance it back to where it was, maybe notch it a little more conservative to 55/45.

Being very black/white all-or-nothing about it is almost always a horrible idea.
Why are people like to post black/white or nothing, what about 50 shades of grey or in between.
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Old 04-27-2019, 05:34 PM
 
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Black/White "all or nothing" thinking is rampant and it seems people have trouble thinking beyond the 2 extremes. We see examples of this often on the forums. It's an important lesson to learn in investing, and if someone needs to learn it the hard way in order to believe it, then have at it.
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Old 04-27-2019, 06:20 PM
 
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In addition to the panicky behavior, the OP now wants advice on how to invest the money he pulled from the stock market. Unbelievable.
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Old 04-28-2019, 05:11 AM
 
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A 457b can certainly be “in” the market. It simply means that it is an employer sponsored retirement plan. So you have no market investments in that account, and you get 16k a year in interest? That’s a nice chunk of change to be sitting in cash...but if you are getting everything you need via interest, you are very fortunate.
Yeah, some people will call me a snob, but it makes me cringe when people say "I invested in an IRA" or something like that. It really shows that the don't understand basic investing concepts.
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Old 04-28-2019, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Was Midvalley Oregon; Now Eastside Seattle area
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^Perhaps too general of a statement?
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