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Creation of man from "Nutfah" "Be cursed (the disbelieving) man! How ungrateful he is! From what thing did He create him? From Nutfah (male and female semen drops) He created him and then set him in due proportion." (Surat 'Abasa (He Frowned):17-19)
Nothing from the 11th century then. This changes what? Islam in its current fanatic-dominated incarnation is an evil deen with no redeeming qualities that would take civilization backwards into ignorance and Theocracy, period.
Well.. there it is, then, isn't it? Amazing. I DID NOT KNOW this!
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Originally Posted by souhilo1
Creation of man from "Nutfah" "Be cursed (the disbelieving) man! How ungrateful he is! From what thing did He create him? From Nutfah (male and female semen drops) He created him and then set him in due proportion." (Surat 'Abasa (He Frowned):17-19)
Hmmm. This is Islamic science, huh? Female semen "drops" huh... So you believe this?
Are you participating in this discusion, or are you just proselytizing? Were you able to understand Dr. Tyson's presentation, (my post, #5, above, page 1) souhilo1?
Creation of man from "Nutfah" "Be cursed (the disbelieving) man! How ungrateful he is! From what thing did He create him? From Nutfah (male and female semen drops) He created him and then set him in due proportion." (Surat 'Abasa (He Frowned):17-19)
Nothing from the 11th century then. This changes what? Islam in its current fanatic-dominated incarnation is an evil deen with no redeeming qualities that would take civilization backwards into ignorance and Theocracy, period.
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Originally Posted by Rafius
...and a Christianity wouldn't old chap??
They had their reign of terror. It will never be repeated or allowed. Only illiterate, benighted and culturally backward societies are susceptible to such idiocy and madness.
They had their reign of terror. It will never be repeated or allowed. Only illiterate, benighted and culturally backward societies are susceptible to such idiocy and madness.
I'll keep a look out for it starting in Spain then!
It is an example of the problems we get when scientists have religious faith.
Instead of being objective and critical, this Islamic convert has worked hard at finding anything in the Quran that seemed to confirm his faith, even interpreting passages to fit. I'd think that the Mullahs wouldn't be too pleased if it did not suit them that a western professor provides them with some welcome propaganda.
"Consider the following verse referring to sperm:
He is created from a drop (of sperm) emitted-- Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs. (Qur'an 86:6-7)
Clearly this verse is incorrect, and clearly it has origins in earlier theories. First of all, for sperm to originate between the back and the ribs would mean that it comes from the kidneys! We now know that semen is produced in the testicles, but people in Muhammad's time did not know this. Eleven centuries before Muhammad, the Greek physician Hippocrates theorized that sperm passed through the kidneys into the penis. For centuries this was an accepted (and incorrect) belief of the origins of sperm."
It is worth reading both side of the quranic embryology discussion and it will become painfully clear that Dr Moore's placing the service of his science under the feet of the Quran has only made him look a laughing - stock.
Hi AREQUIPA ...
What kidneys ?
May I ask of you please not to use Anti-Islamic sites as you ask me not to use creationist sites .
Simply ...
The verse in arabic said :
"خلق من ماء دافق يخرج من بين الصلب والترائب "
In Englesh :
"Created of water squirts out from between the backbone spine and the ribs "
The verse was not referring to where the sperm comes from , actually it was referring to something more accurate and comprehensive in a very few words ..
Since the formation of any Embryo needs to be done by two genders( not only male sperm , humans and animals knows that since the beginning of time ) ... and Since two genders means gonads (ovaries and testes) in order for Embryo to be created or made .
The verse referred amazingly to the cellular origins of the gonads (ovaries and testes) the genital tuber which found in the dorsal region of the embryo in front of the backbone ( between the mid-spine and almost against the bottom of the ribs ) before Embryo determined by gender (as it shows clearly in the picture below) :
That is why Dr. Moore said , “I was amazed at the scientific accuracy of these statements which were made in the 7th century C.E.,” .
He was not referring to where the sperm comes from !!!
There for we don't need to talk about Greek physician as they were referring to a totally different wrong thing .
In order to understand the correct meaning of the words you must be versed on Arabic grammar .
Speaking Arabic Language is not enough .
P.S :I bet no greek or chinese or any race physician in the world BACK THEN knows a damn thing about it
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Islam in its current fanatic-dominated incarnation is an evil deen with no redeeming qualities that would take civilization backwards into ignorance and Theocracy, period.
Most religions have that potential though. We must keep a wary eye on them all in order to prevent it - not just Islam. I have not seen many religions that are devoid of adherants who would happily see us thrown back into ignorance - dark ages - or even oblivion.
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Well.. there it is, then, isn't it? Amazing. I DID NOT KNOW this!
) ... and Since two genders means gonads (ovaries and testes) in order for Embryo to be created or made . 
