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Old 07-05-2013, 02:18 PM
 
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In the real world, for most things, 'preferred' means more desirable, not necessarily a requirement.

"I prefer pasta for dinner, but pizza is OK."

"I prefer blondes, but have dated many brunettes."

So, when you see a job listing that says...

"...prefers a Masters."

"...prefers XXXX certification."

...what is your opinion from experience?

Preference or de-facto requirement?
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Old 07-05-2013, 02:19 PM
 
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In the real world, for most things, 'preferred' means more desirable, not necessarily a requirement.
It means more desirable, not necessarily a requirement.

Even then, how many successful applicants even meet ALL the requirements let alone preferences? I don't think I've ever was hired for a job that I met EVERY requirement.
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Old 07-05-2013, 02:24 PM
 
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It means more desirable, not necessarily a requirement.

Even then, how many successful applicants even meet ALL the requirements let alone preferences? I don't think I've ever was hired for a job that I met EVERY requirement.
I tend to think that for the jobs I've applied to MANY applicants meet all of the requirements. So, if you don't have the preferences all down, your resume pretty much goes to the back of the pile.

Your experience is different I guess.
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Old 07-05-2013, 02:27 PM
 
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I tend to think that for the jobs I've applied to MANY applicants meet all of the requirements. So, if you don't have the preferences all down, your resume pretty much goes to the back of the pile.

Your experience is different I guess.
Or, I may have not met all the requirements (e.g experience with skill XYZ), but I met several of the preferences (masters degree in ABC). Sometimes there is a similar skill to XYZ that is sufficient for example.
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Old 07-05-2013, 02:28 PM
 
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Sometimes they put stuff on the ads so that you'll be prepared not to expect top dollar
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Old 07-05-2013, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Sometimes they put stuff on the ads so that you'll be prepared not to expect top dollar
But some of the "prefered" requirements such as a degree, certain amount of experience, particular types of experience, specific experience with skills and other things, counter act that. Ie asking for 3 to years experience AND a degree for "entry-level" positions...
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Old 07-05-2013, 03:16 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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I'll use the example of what happens when I have an opening. We use software that is used by only about 150 organizations worldwide, so the chances of finding someone with experience using it are slim to none. We put something like "3 years experience using database management software, XYZ preferred". We do not expect nor ever get applicants that have used it, but during the interviews we can tell if they have used something at least similar to ease the transition during training.
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Old 07-05-2013, 03:24 PM
 
Location: East Bay, San Francisco Bay Area
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The employer wants that specific trait/quality, but it's not a requirement.
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Old 07-05-2013, 03:40 PM
 
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But some of the "prefered" requirements such as a degree, certain amount of experience, particular types of experience, specific experience with skills and other things, counter act that. Ie asking for 3 to years experience AND a degree for "entry-level" positions...
Example:
Energy trading support roles, an IT job. Background in Finance is prefered.... it would help if you understand trader linggo in order to do your job. (I suggest taking advantage of the dummy/idiot books for those)
remember, the opening could be a replacement or expansion of an existing role and they just want to get close to someone's experiences.

lastly, some ads are better fit for foreigners/H1B visa holders already lined up (especially for greencard processing), so they sound hard to fill, some sound degrading/confusing in fact, on purpose
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Old 07-05-2013, 04:47 PM
 
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3 to years experience AND a degree for "entry-level" positions...
Oh, those are my favorite. The reason why kids with Bachelor's and Master's degrees end up waiting tables after graduation.
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