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Many of the methodologies used nationally adjust for socioeconomic factors, such as % of kids receiving free lunch. So if two schools had equal results, the one with more free lunch kids will be ranked higher.
I think this list is performance driven without these adjustments. I don't know that it's better but it does account for the differing results.
Here's how us news does it (first 2 steps of 3):
• Step 1: The first step determined whether each school's students were performing better than statistically expected for the average student in the state. We started by looking at reading and math results for all students on each state's high school proficiency tests.
We then factored in the percentage of economically disadvantaged students (who tend to score lower) enrolled at the school to identify the schools that were performing better than statistical expectations.
• Step 2: For those schools that made it past this first step, the second step determined whether the school's least-advantaged students (black, Hispanic and low-income) were performing better than average for similar students in the state.
We compared each school's math and reading proficiency rates for disadvantaged students with the statewide results for these student groups and then selected schools that were performing better than this state average.
I see- this definitely would explain why a school like South Huntington did far better on the US News list. Of course it's debatable which methodology gives a more accurate picture of a school's performance, but I definitely think the US News list is more in line with the reputation of Long Island's school districts.
I do believe Plainview-Old Bethpage is massively underrated. Roslyn High School is pretty high IMO. Didn't know Manhasset was that good but I have heard great things about the school. Wheatley and Herricks should be higher.
Meg Whitman went to Cold Spring Harbor high school. 40 years ago. While it is still a fine school, I think it's a stretch to use that fact alone to extrapolate the quality of the school today. For instance, it is more relative that the demographics, particularly income level and educational attainment, of the area have remained consistent.
Meg Whitman went to Cold Spring Harbor high school. 40 years ago. While it is still a fine school, I think it's a stretch to use that fact alone to extrapolate the quality of the school today. For instance, it is more relative that the demographics, particularly income level and educational attainment, of the area have remained consistent.
What does demographics and income have to do with quality of school? In fact I would say it skews data. A bad school in a town full of high income, educated rich folks might get better scores simply cause parents are picking up the slack and hiring tutors.
Yes! Who needs data and actual evidence when we can rely on outliers and impossible to replicate success stories?
The data is false. In Chicago once they took an entire school of low performing students and switched all the students to a high performing school and visa versa.
the stupid kids were still stupid when they went to better school and smart students still smart at worse school.
The actual students are what makes a school good not the school
The data is false. In Chicago once they took an entire school of low performing students and switched all the students to a high performing school and visa versa.
the stupid kids were still stupid when they went to better school and smart students still smart at worse school.
The actual students are what makes a school good not the school
Of course. This list identifies the schools with the best performing student. Tests, etc. In general. I don't think anyone thinks otherwise (nitpicker alert: life is full of exceptions and this is not to say only the top schools on the list have high performing students)
I do believe Plainview-Old Bethpage is massively underrated. Roslyn High School is pretty high IMO. Didn't know Manhasset was that good but I have heard great things about the school. Wheatley and Herricks should be higher.
How is the Plainview-OB school district underrated? It is listed as one of the top 10 highest scoring districts. If anything it is highly overrated, which I believe it is.
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