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We have friends whose son was salutatorian in a “less than” district. He didn’t get into any Ivies and the guidance department seemed perplexed on how to handle him (although there’s a valedictorian and salutatorian every year). That pretty much convinced me school district does matter.
We have friends whose son was salutatorian in a “less than” district. He didn’t get into any Ivies and the guidance department seemed perplexed on how to handle him (although there’s a valedictorian and salutatorian every year). That pretty much convinced me school district does matter.
Grades, shmades. Apparently the way in is $50k in an envelope to get placed on the crew team. lol
We have friends whose son was salutatorian in a “less than” district. He didn’t get into any Ivies and the guidance department seemed perplexed on how to handle him (although there’s a valedictorian and salutatorian every year). That pretty much convinced me school district does matter.
Why does someone need to go to an Ivy league school though? I don't believe companies care too much what school you go to as long as you have a degree. That's what I have seen anyhow. I have a good job. I went to SUNY. Middle of the road grades. I do well.
Why does someone need to go to an Ivy league school though? I don't believe companies care too much what school you go to as long as you have a degree. That's what I have seen anyhow. I have a good job. I went to SUNY. Middle of the road grades. I do well.
I guess it depends on what line of work you're in. In the legal field (and I would assume the medical field as well), it definitely matters. The more prestigious the school, the more prestigious the law firm (and the higher the starting salary, the better the perks, etc.).
I guess it depends on what line of work you're in. In the legal field (and I would assume the medical field as well), it definitely matters. The more prestigious the school, the more prestigious the law firm (and the higher the starting salary, the better the perks, etc.).
I mean I guess. I am not in those fields but I would wager they'd care more about your grad school degree and not your bachelors.
I'm not smart enough for ivies anyway but it seems like a waste of money to me. Saved a lot of money going to SUNY and got a solid education. :::shrug:::
Kudos to those who get in though. It's impressive for sure.
Also, these high rated districts want to stay that way to ensure the bloated salaries.
They do fudge #'s and "help" kids pass in order to keep their status.
This is fact. I know first hand what goes on so I don't need anybody telling me otherwise and throwing the tinfoil hat nonsense at me.
HotKarl is right. My mother's boss is a rich, Jewish doctor who lives in the Jericho school district. One of her sons is not that bright and gets frustrated easily. He hated math and was failing it. He walked out of the classroom in the middle of the math regents test and told the teachers he refused to take it. The next day my mother's boss showed up at the school to tell them how rich and powerful she was and they let him take the math regents test all by himself in a classroom with a teacher that "looked the other way" while he pulled out his math textbook and found most of the answers on his cell phone. He got a 100 on that test. They aren't letting the kids in Hempstead do that.
Why does someone need to go to an Ivy league school though? I don't believe companies care too much what school you go to as long as you have a degree. That's what I have seen anyhow. I have a good job. I went to SUNY. Middle of the road grades. I do well.
As usual you've totally missed the point....which was - generally a valedictorian or salutatorian should not have trouble getting into an Ivy should they choose to apply. I don't know many who don't apply, although I'm sure they exist.
And if you really think your degree from SUNY Buffalo is as valuable for opening doors as a degree from an Ivy then you're delusional. Does that mean one is left to a life bereft of possibilities if they DON'T go to an Ivy? Does it mean you're guaranteed a great life if you DO go to one? No. But to state that there's nothing different between the two institutions is just silly. I read an article once by a guy who went to Princeton and he said he ALWAYS works it into a conversation that he went there. It was a funny article, but his point was clear - people are always impressed.
And back to my story of our friends - the parents were disappointed when all was said and done that their kid didn't at least have the opportunity to go to an Ivy. They said if they had lived in a Garden City, it would have happened.
BTW we have friends whose kid DID get into Harvard, but chose not to go. Not the right for him, and he's going to another great college for free. (They don't live on LI).
As usual you've totally missed the point....which was - generally a valedictorian or salutatorian should not have trouble getting into an Ivy should they choose to apply. I don't know many who don't apply, although I'm sure they exist.
And if you really think your degree from SUNY Buffalo is as valuable for opening doors as a degree from an Ivy then you're delusional. Does that mean one is left to a life bereft of possibilities if they DON'T go to an Ivy? Does it mean you're guaranteed a great life if you DO go to one? No. But to state that there's nothing different between the two institutions is just silly. I read an article once by a guy who went to Princeton and he said he ALWAYS works it into a conversation that he went there. It was a funny article, but his point was clear - people are always impressed.
And back to my story of our friends - the parents were disappointed when all was said and done that their kid didn't at least have the opportunity to go to an Ivy. They said if they had lived in a Garden City, it would have happened.
BTW we have friends whose kid DID get into Harvard, but chose not to go. Not the right for him, and he's going to another great college for free. (They don't live on LI).
For me I would rather have a little bit of debt than a lot (comparatively speaking). That's ANY private university. I don't get it. It's too much money when SUNY is a viable option, why wouldn't you?
Also, just b/c someone is a valedictorian or salutatorian doesn't mean they necessarily have the grades to get in. For example, I remember when I actually got Newsday delivered, they'd post the valedictorian & salutatorian of each school with their GPA's. I remember some of the lower performing schools having valedictorians or salutatorians with grades in only the low 90's. Those grades would not be high enough for an ivy. That has nothing to do with the ivy, their grades are not high enough. Now, one can say, well why aren't their grades high enough and attribute it to the high school. Maybe it's the high school's fault or maybe it isn't. Regardless I don't think colleges are purposely turning away those kids. Instead I would think they'd have an advantage especially if they were a minority.
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