Bill submitted to allow Maine gun owners to carry concealed without permit (Otis: legal, homeowner)

[Mark S.]

Heard about this on the news this morning: – Would-be Portland robber wields knife, but victim pulls gun

Here's the gist (for the full article, follow the link):

A 35-year-old Cumberland woman said she was walking to her car in the parking lot at 106 Gilman St., near Maine Medical Center, at 2:45 p.m. Friday when the robber approached her. He asked for money and threatened her with a knife after she said she had nothing to give him. The woman again told the man she didn’t have any money and then got in her car, where she had a handgun. She pointed the gun at the man and told him to leave her alone. The man left in an unknown direction.

[Northern Maine Land Man]

That lady was fortunate. She should have been carrying. Maybe she works in a victim zone such as a post office or school where she is not authorized to carry.

[TheKezarWoodsman]

Sandy hook guy was not liscensed, he stole the from his mother if i remember correctly

[Northern Maine Land Man]

She taught him to shoot. The home where they lived was a very expensive home. It has been torn down and the school has been torn down.Lets try to focus on the Maine constitution carry issue in this thread. There are lots of other threads on Sandy Hook.

[Mark S.]

Originally Posted by Northern Maine Land Man

Lets try to focus on the Maine constitution carry issue in this thread.

The Maine Constitution on this so vague and undefined as to be useless. It reads:

Section 16. To keep and bear arms. Every citizen has a right to keep and bear arms and this right shall never be questioned.

So ... no questions allowed? Really?

If a citizen wants to keep a working flame throwing in his garage, we aren't allowed to question that? It might be great for clearing ice off the driveway.

If a citizen wants to mount a minigun in the back of his pickup, we can't question that?



If a citizen wants to keep a grenade launcher in his front seat, that's okay? We aren't allowed to question that?

See what I mean. It's so vague as to be useless.

[znlwovuhrjw]

Originally Posted by Mark S.

The Maine Constitution on this so vague and undefined as to be useless. It reads:

Section 16. To keep and bear arms. Every citizen has a right to keep and bear arms and this right shall never be questioned.

So ... no questions allowed? Really?

If a citizen wants to keep a working flame throwing in his garage, we aren't allowed to question that? It might be great for clearing ice off the driveway.

If a citizen wants to mount a minigun in the back of his pickup, we can't question that?



If a citizen wants to keep a grenade launcher in his front seat, that's okay? We aren't allowed to question that?

See what I mean. It's so vague as to be useless.

Even if that person did all of those things, they still haven't done anything. The fact that he could afford any of those items means he cares enough about making money that he probably has no interest in being the next liberal field day.

[Mark S.]

Originally Posted by kingdomkz

The fact that he could afford any of those items means he cares enough about making money that he probably has no interest in being the next liberal field day.

You mean like drug dealers? They care a lot about making money.

You'd be okay with the Iron Horsemen mounting machine guns on their Harleys? We can't question that?

[znlwovuhrjw]

Originally Posted by Mark S.

You mean like drug dealers? They care a lot about making money.

You'd be okay with the Iron Horsemen mounting machine guns on their Harleys? We can't question that?

Drug dealers don't want to die either, these days they use crypto and your favorite mail carriers to send everything over the internet. Just go to groups.google.com and you'll see what I mean, drug dealers are so out in the open behind encryption it's not even funny. A drug dealer certainly would not put anything like that on a vehicle in the US and if anything most of EVERYTHING they purchase is typically with cash so the IRS doesn't catch up with them eventually quickly followed by the FBI.

I only know about most of this because my next door neighbor who is leasing the property actively grows marijuana in the backyard and he has the permit to do it, but he didn't have a permit a long time ago and I know he still doesn't sell it to a dispenser. If he really wanted to get anything you banned, he could get it with his resources because he already lives an illegal life. What you're saying, does absolutely nothing to him and anyone else that lives on the dark side of life.

And if you really think those "resources" don't exist, just download Tor, setup the router, and away you go onto the darknet and you can buy everything imaginable.

[Maineguy04654]

Originally Posted by Mark S.

The Maine Constitution on this so vague and undefined as to be useless. It reads:

Section 16. To keep and bear arms. Every citizen has a right to keep and bear arms and this right shall never be questioned.

So ... no questions allowed? Really?

If a citizen wants to keep a working flame throwing in his garage, we aren't allowed to question that? It might be great for clearing ice off the driveway.

If a citizen wants to mount a minigun in the back of his pickup, we can't question that?



If a citizen wants to keep a grenade launcher in his front seat, that's okay? We aren't allowed to question that?

See what I mean. It's so vague as to be useless.

I used to hang out the the Major on another forum many years ago before he went dealer only.

[Maineguy04654]

Originally Posted by Otisofoat

There is the other side...remeber Sandy hook, Aurora Colorado, Virginia Tech, Columbine High School. Kinda makes ya stop and think.
http://timelines.latimes.com/deadlie...ting-rampages/

Yes they make you want this more. Lets look at your places to remember. First all where GUN FREE ZONES so it was ILLEGAL to have a firearm in those places. This bill would NOT alter that in any way. Next in each of those cases a person went there to kill people and did so when they got there. This is also already ILLEGAL.

Now given these facts what have we learned. First criminals do NOT care what the law says. If a law woudl stop crime there woudl be no crime as crime is already illegal. Next form a purely logical standpoint. A free man must under current Maine law get permission to carry a firearm in the form of a permit. Why do we get the the permit? because it is against the law to carry without one ( except for open carry ).