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Old 12-23-2016, 07:05 PM
 
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What exactly makes developers and banksters "scumbags"?

Often enough? just their smug faces alone.
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Old 12-23-2016, 07:28 PM
 
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yes, for the better, but when these chains move in sometimes, the area loses its character. see the upper west side will never lose its character, but places like Harlem, which was black, has. i like the fact that gentrification has hit harlem, but everything comes with a cost. some neighborhoods NEED to be gentrified, because they are dumps
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Old 12-23-2016, 07:39 PM
 
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the upper west side will never lose its character

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So a place can ONLY lose "character" if it's black!? wtf? myopically racist much?!

ALL places lose character when the rich move in. doesnt matter what color they are. HUNDREDS of neighborhoods in cities across the nation (that were white even!) became bland, boring, and dull once the Macaron brigade had their movers move their stuff in.
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Old 12-23-2016, 09:36 PM
 
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yes, for the better, but when these chains move in sometimes, the area loses its character. see the upper west side will never lose its character, but places like Harlem, which was black, has. i like the fact that gentrification has hit harlem, but everything comes with a cost. some neighborhoods NEED to be gentrified, because they are dumps
I could just as easily say that East Harlem lost its Italian character in the 60s when tons of PRs and Dominicans moved in, but then I'd get called a racist or something. Character means nothing, it's just a buzzford for saying "too many white people who live differently moved here!"

I mean, rent raises and people being priced out are very real issues, but character is just... subjective nothingness.
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Old 12-23-2016, 09:38 PM
 
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The positive aspects of gentrification???? For who yuppies and transplants? Scumbag developers and banker wanksters?

What the **** are you talking about? Why don't you go to Bed-Stuy Brooklyn or the LES and talk to life-long residents who are getting evicted and harassed by police so you can have a ****ing artisan pickle shop and a condo and call yourself "edgy"
Reduction of crime, increased sanitation services, new bus routes, more money for public schools, etc etc.

Gentrification doesn't mean the same thing as hipsters.
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Old 12-23-2016, 09:41 PM
 
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yes, for the better, but when these chains move in sometimes, the area loses its character. see the upper west side will never lose its character, but places like Harlem, which was black, has. i like the fact that gentrification has hit harlem, but everything comes with a cost. some neighborhoods NEED to be gentrified, because they are dumps
You do realize that people of all races and socioeconomic backgrounds use big chains. AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Chase, Whole Foods moved into Harlem because there is a MARKET for their products and services. Harlem may never fully gentrify, but as it is big companies can make money there because consumers in that neighborhood WANT their products and services.

Drop the white guilt nonsense.
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Old 12-24-2016, 08:44 AM
 
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the upper west side will never lose its character

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So a place can ONLY lose "character" if it's black!? wtf? myopically racist much?!

ALL places lose character when the rich move in. doesnt matter what color they are. HUNDREDS of neighborhoods in cities across the nation (that were white even!) became bland, boring, and dull once the Macaron brigade had their movers move their stuff in.
it wont. the UWS has always had big boxed stores, and no all neighborhoods do not lose its character. the UWS has always been the same
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Old 12-24-2016, 08:47 AM
 
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reduction of crime, increased sanitation services, new bus routes, more money for public schools, etc etc.

Gentrification doesn't mean the same thing as hipsters.
+1
as evidenced by the responses to my post, to some, gentrification means racial white washing
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Old 12-24-2016, 08:56 AM
 
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You do realize that people of all races and socioeconomic backgrounds use big chains. AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Chase, Whole Foods moved into Harlem because there is a MARKET for their products and services. Harlem may never fully gentrify, but as it is big companies can make money there because consumers in that neighborhood WANT their products and services.

Drop the white guilt nonsense.
cell phone companies, and banks, except for wells fargo. those which no one mentioned, have been in the hood pre gentrification. they go wherever there's a need. the cellphone companies capitalized on the popularity of cellphone service. that fact has nothing to do with gentrification. the banks and all other recent businesses which have opened, or relocated to harlem NOW there's a market due to harlem gentrifying. they see higher income individuals residing in harlem, which is why they've set up shop. harlem was POOR, prior to its gentrifying. harlem was NEVER going to see a whole foods had the neighborhood remained the same. although everyone uses big chains, lets not act stupid, and act like certain neighborhoods had they not gentrified were going to see these things in their hood. they were not.
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Old 12-24-2016, 11:53 AM
 
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What exactly makes developers and banksters "scumbags"? The taxes they pay support NY's massive social safety net. For all the hate, I don't see people rushing to go live in Baltimore, for all that they love "realness". As far as police harassment goes, that has nothing to do with gentrification. Ferguson, MO probably wasn't a hipster haven....
They are scumbags because they don't produce anything for society they just leech off us working people that work he hospitals, the stores, the restaurants, groceries stores, shipping, etc we produce all the wealth of society but they enjoy all the fruits of our labor. They often pay less taxes then we do. Then they come in and evict people from their neighborhoods to build condos
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