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Old 01-15-2018, 11:47 AM
 
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I've been all over the Bronx, and no I'm not scared, but that doesn't mean it isn't a ghetto to someone living in Scarsdale. I just hope that you understand that your standards aren't the same as others.
Why? What does it matter to you?
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Old 01-15-2018, 11:58 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Why? What does it matter to you?
You're asking me? You created the thread.
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Old 01-15-2018, 12:14 PM
 
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You're asking me? You created the thread.
I'd use the exasperation emoji now but that's your thing.
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Old 01-15-2018, 12:20 PM
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Location: Where my bills arrive
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As to the OP's question, it is hard enough to find the right residence in a neighborhood you can afford with schools that you want for your kids (if applicable). What political party my neighbor(s) may/may not belong to is the least of my concerns. All I ever ask is keep your yard reasonably neat and wave hello if you know me...

Just my .02¢
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Old 01-15-2018, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Manhattan
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As to the OP's question, it is hard enough to find the right residence in a neighborhood you can afford with schools that you want for your kids (if applicable). What political party my neighbor(s) may/may not belong to is the least of my concerns. All I ever ask is keep your yard reasonably neat and wave hello if you know me...

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I agree. That would be the last of my concerns. I don't even know any of my neighbors now. Barely know their names much less their political leanings. As long as they're not openly hostile to me, I don't care.
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Old 01-15-2018, 12:56 PM
 
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As to the OP's question, it is hard enough to find the right residence in a neighborhood you can afford with schools that you want for your kids (if applicable). What political party my neighbor(s) may/may not belong to is the least of my concerns. All I ever ask is keep your yard reasonably neat and wave hello if you know me...

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Thanks for your input. Those things are important to me too. Actually I think there has been the odd thread asking about friendliness.
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Old 01-15-2018, 12:57 PM
 
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I agree. That would be the last of my concerns. I don't even know any of my neighbors now. Barely know their names much less their political leanings. As long as they're not openly hostile to me, I don't care.
Thanks for your response.
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Old 01-15-2018, 01:29 PM
 
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I know. It's very off-putting and offensive.
In what way are they superior at all?
I guess they think they're better because they're white basically.

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It may be partially that they were isolated for so long? It's unfortunate.
It could be that too

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I'll try to explain a little more how I came to feel how I do. For some conservatives not being pc is a point of pride. I mentioned that my kids attended school in a different and more conservative neighborhood from where we live. Sometimes my daughter invited a friend over our house and I heard back "I'm not allowed because you live in the ghetto". This wasn't an isolated response and it was straight from the parents. It's just one example. I spent a lot of time with parents, and while no one looked me in the eye and said something like that to my face, there were a lot of little cuts - little remarks that I associate with a more closed-minded attitude than I want to live around. And maybe I shouldn't associate these things with political affiliation but I think there is a correlation.

Then for me, the election of DT compounded everything. I find him so offensive on so many levels. Even if only 50 percent of the neighborhood voted for Trump, that's like half the neighborhood supports or tolerates something that I find intolerable. I don't want to live around that.

Elnrgby is another case. I think your ideology is extremely important to you, and it stresses "civility" right? But you get a lot of feedback indicating that for a lot of people, being referred to as a "civilized" minority or poor person is offensive. But to make a simple change like that in your speech would be so pc--everyone else should adjust "their" reactions to suit you. And again, this is just one simple f*** word. I don't think that word is the whole issue --- like you change that word and the neighborhood is suddenly a great fit for you. I do think that ideology is part of the problem though.
That's messed up, I can't wait for those type of people to leave NYC altogether

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Old 01-15-2018, 02:02 PM
 
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I'll try to explain a little more how I came to feel how I do. For some conservatives not being pc is a point of pride. I mentioned that my kids attended school in a different and more conservative neighborhood from where we live. Sometimes my daughter invited a friend over our house and I heard back "I'm not allowed because you live in the ghetto". This wasn't an isolated response and it was straight from the parents. It's just one example. I spent a lot of time with parents, and while no one looked me in the eye and said something like that to my face, there were a lot of little cuts - little remarks that I associate with a more closed-minded attitude than I want to live around. And maybe I shouldn't associate these things with political affiliation but I think there is a correlation.

Then for me, the election of DT compounded everything. I find him so offensive on so many levels. Even if only 50 percent of the neighborhood voted for Trump, that's like half the neighborhood supports or tolerates something that I find intolerable. I don't want to live around that.

Elnrgby is another case. I think your ideology is extremely important to you, and it stresses "civility" right? But you get a lot of feedback indicating that for a lot of people, being referred to as a "civilized" minority or poor person is offensive. But to make a simple change like that in your speech would be so pc--everyone else should adjust "their" reactions to suit you. And again, this is just one simple f*** word. I don't think that word is the whole issue --- like you change that word and the neighborhood is suddenly a great fit for you. I do think that ideology is part of the problem though.
Okay, so what word do you propose to indicate that people In Parkchester are not criminals or welfare users, that they pay condo fees/rents from their generally modest income to support the 24-hour condo assoc security crew, as well as a large-city-park level landscaping? If it is racially offensive to call this civilized (which interpretation still stumps me), then what should I call it?
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Old 01-15-2018, 02:36 PM
 
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Okay, so what word do you propose to indicate that people In Parkchester are not criminals or welfare users, that they pay condo fees/rents from their generally modest income to support the 24-hour condo assoc security crew, as well as a large-city-park level landscaping? If it is racially offensive to call this civilized (which interpretation still stumps me), then what should I call it?
That's progress, thank you elnrgby. I personally find civilized to be a very low bar. It's like - "well at least they don't knock me down and steal my groceries after I step out of the A&P". Maybe you're trying to say that they're nice people? Hard working? Kind? You may have to use more than one adjective.
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