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An idea for a sociology PhD dissertation project: compare socioeconomic status of people moving out of vs. moving in NYC, and ask them why they are moving either way. My guess would be that those moving out are more affluent than those moving in, and gentrification is the least important reason for either. Considering the absence of gentrifiers in the Bronx, I would say pumping up the rents in the Bronx is far more a function of the lavish Section 8 than of any gentrification.
You are correct about the Bronx. However the prices are up across the board, and one the big problems is that there's no real difference between the really good areas versus the subpar ones in terms of the prices. The floor in the South Bronx seems to be around $1300-1500. Go to an area like Riverdale and the floor is around $1600-1700. That's a problem.
The same thing in Queens too. Look at the prices in say Forest Hills or Whitestone versus the hood areas of the Rockaways... Now of course when we start talking about one bedrooms and such and what you get, the prices can vary, but still. The market is overpriced, and highly inflated. We've had some new housing stock, and yes some landlords have renovated, but most of the renovations that you find are mainly cosmetic. It's not they are moving all of the plumbing around. Just gutting apartments and putting in new floors in the kitchen and bathroom and such. The whole Section 8 thing is a problem elsewhere as well such as in Brooklyn.
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Originally Posted by stormgal
It has little to do with the rent, but more with socialistic policies that will eventually bring back the burning south bronx era.
Yeah, for what we are getting, the prices aren't worth it. The streets are filthy and the City isn't providing the basic services. Can't get around anywhere, especially not with the MTA. Streets mobbed with tourists. The quality of life is going down the toilet. I'm not at the point of leaving NYC, but I can certainly understand why many people are.
One reason I see first hand are the younger folks going to college or with the degree,finding greener pastures elsewhere.
Yes the rent is too damn high, or one needs to put their family in a 1 br. It gets tired quick!
The weather here,in winter,sucks. Many cant wait at the chance to run.
Then there are your folks that busted their humps working,and tired of seeing nothing in return. No yard,no toys,no trees .
Face it,NYC is filled with greys,browns,pigeon colored enviorment,while you go far down south, and enjoy the blues,greens,and yellows, exotic bird emnviorment.
You are correct about the Bronx. However the prices are up across the board, and one the big problems is that there's no real difference between the really good areas versus the subpar ones in terms of the prices. The floor in the South Bronx seems to be around $1300-1500. Go to an area like Riverdale and the floor is around $1600-1700. That's a problem.
Blame the transplants for not wanting to commute, that's your problem
They need to live within a half hour of everything so that they can get hammered after work, why do you think they're choosing the South Bronx over Riverdale
There's no neighborhood that is a hour commute or more from the Financial District or Midtown that has gentrified, come on, pierrepont, you of all people should know better
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I would have this city's problems fixed in 10 years
Charge tuition for public school K-12 based on income so that the teachers don't have to beg the parents to bring in supplies and buy those $60 boxes of candy every September
If you make under a certain amount, school's optional
You have to pay for CUNY now so whats the difference if you pay for grade school
Pay for public libraries too, a monthly fee
Public pools, pay a dollar entry fee
And last but not least a major property tax reassessment, with churches no longer fee exempt
Churches are not exempt from paying utility fees so why not property taxes
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When they arrive at the mediocre Midwest or spiritkess sunbelt they are going to SUFFER! The middle and southern U.S. are some of the most backwards, uncivilized places places to live in the world. Lonely, depressing with bland cuisine these loservilles are bastions of mental illness and depression. Sorry, but I will happily stick with the Northeast.
Blame the transplants for not wanting to commute, that's your problem
They need to live within a half hour of everything so that they can get hammered after work, why do you think they're choosing the South Bronx over Riverdale
There's no neighborhood that is a hour commute or more from the Financial District or Midtown that has gentrified, come on, pierrepont, you of all people should know better
Oh so now you blame "transplants" for not wanting to commute from the hood, after you told them to stay away from "gentrifying" the hood :-). Again, you will sling around all possible mutually contradictory arguments as long as you can fit them into the same anti-white, anti-middle class prejudice.
Rent is too high in NYC are you planning to leave the city ?
“The mass exodus of New Yorkers leaving New York City has hit a record pace.”
“According to new reports, as many as 277 people are leaving New York City each day, leading all U.S. metro areas, and more than double the number recorded last year.”
“New York City lost 439,523 of its 8,400,000 residents: 18,000 in Queens, 13,500 in Brooklyn, 7,500 in the Bronx and 1,000 in Manhattan. Staten Island recorded a gain of 663.”
“According to reports, the population drop may cause New York to lose up to two congressional seats by 2022, dropping it from 27 to 25 members in office.”
None of the statistics even capture the people who were not NYC residents, but are selling their pied-a-terres (Keith Richards last year, myself eventually). The comparison of the number of people trying to sell vs. trying to buy a pied a terre in NYC would be very meaningful in terms of measuring the level of interest of affluent people in NYC.
Oh so now you blame "transplants" for not wanting to commute from the hood, after you told them to stay away from "gentrifying" the hood :-). Again, you will sling around all possible mutually contradictory arguments as long as you can fit them into the same anti-white, anti-middle class prejudice.
You should apologize to the entire board for buying property in what amounts to nothing more than a high-class housing project in the poorest borough in NYC and expecting harmony.
Don’t get mad because you made an uniformed purchase.
You should have bought in Midwood. Even Riverdale would have been better.
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