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Old 09-05-2019, 05:29 PM
 
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You know what is interesting is that people who love Trump, loads of angry folks who populate this site, screaming about "black savagery" will NOT like life in Singapore. There its westerners who get harassed by the cops if they don't obey the law. I remember the howls of some when a white American kid got a good paddling in jail.

I personally did not vote in the last election (and will likely not vote in the next one), do not love Trump (although I am fiscally conservative), and have never screamed about black savagery - I am just against savagery in general. I absolutely DO think that any white American or European kid, who goes breaking Singapore laws, fully deserves the paddling!

 
Old 09-05-2019, 05:55 PM
 
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You are the one usually screaming about ghetto (black) savages and how miserable they make your life so check yourself about hating NYC. I love this city because it puts people like you in check, pining for the returning of Giuliani.


There is a glut at the top end because there is over building. When one considers that your average NYC resident has household income of around $70k how many people can afford what they want to charge? We have so many waves of gentrification in this city as people are forced to move.


Many people are leaving the city because housing is expensive. Just ask those departing for FL.

Please stop inserting "black" into my sentences. I have no interest in the skin color of a ghetto savage. About ten years ago, we had an incident where a young kid in his 20s severely beat up an old man in his 80s, in one of the Parkchester building corridors, in order to steal a nearly-worthless little gold chain with a cross or some Catholic-type little medal from the old man. I was equally outraged at that as I am at gang warfare: the scummy kid was indeed white, living with his scummy white mother in some nearby housing (not in Parkchester Condo), and both the kid and the mother were drug addicts. The old man was Latino. While statistically far less common in the Bronx (because there are simply not very many whites in the Bronx), violent crime committed by that kind of white scum is totally equal to me as similar crime committed by a scum of any other color - why would I care about the color of a criminal??


People who make $70k do not live in the areas with luxury overbuilding. I already said that there is no gentrification in the Bronx, where high rents are putting pressure on people who make $70k. You know what is driving those rents up? The fact that the smallest NYCHA Section 8 voucher is around $1,500. That sets minimum rent in the Bronx. You can't rent out an apartment for less than that if you want to. Again a repetitive story: I was renting out my Parkchester condo for $900. The tenant abandoned the lease with a few days' notice, because she received a Section 8 voucher, which she immediately used for moving into a more expensive apartment! There was no gentrification involved here - yes, I am white, but I was renting out my condo below the market, so how was I a gentrifier, just because I am white? If I really depended on that rental income, I would have been totally screwed by a tenant completely disregarding the lease, and just telling me leisurely that she is leaving in a few days because she won a taxpayer lottery for a bigger apartment, adios! But of course, despite the fact that I was renting out cheaply, and that she had no problem defaulting on a lease, I am somehow a gentrifier who drove her out with my white gentrifier greed! Please don't be ridiculous.
 
Old 09-05-2019, 06:15 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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What does Singapore have to do with this? Of course I wouldn’t like Singapore, it’s not the US of A!
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Old 09-05-2019, 06:32 PM
 
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Since we're all talking about hypothetical leadership in NYC... If I could "rule" NYC as a dictator, I would:

1. Institute a "transaction tax" on all Wall Street transactions. Not sure if it already exists, but if it does then I would increase it.

2. Prosecute white collar criminals and tax fraud severely.

3. Close all loopholes which allow said white collar folk to legally scam the system, and institute a progressive tax regime which taxes the wealthiest of the wealthiest at post-Great Depression era rates.

4. Legalize pot and tax it.

5. Outlaw housing speculation and flipping. Purchase a house? You need to hold it for 2 years before you can re-sell it. Sorry, no gentrification here.

6. Re-institute the Mitchell Lama program.

7. Eliminate most forms of welfare in the city and instead institute Universal Basic Income where every person over the age of 18 makes $40,000 a year. The savings from dismantling welfare would more than pay for it.

8. Institute widespread rent stabilization, capping rent at no more than 30% of income. See number 5 above, as this would go hand in hand with preventing housing speculation and flipping.

9. Increase membership in labor unions but also cap overtime.

10. Legalize prostitution, tax it heavily, monitor it very closely and use the tax to help pay for the revitalization of the transportation system.

11. Universal healthcare.

I think that's it, lol.

Who will pay for #7 and #11? While I support UBI, it is not something that anyone "makes" (since people don't work for UBI, they just get it - from taxation of the top earners, just like the welfare recipients get their welfare benefits now from the same source). The virtues of UBI (as opposed to traditional welfare) are that UBI is equal for every citizen, and most importantly that it is LIMITED, putting the responsibility for money management on the recipient. But it still comes out of taxes, and therefore it cannot exceed the tax revenue. There is nowhere near enough tax revenue (even federal, let alone NYC) to give everyone $40k per year - even giving $12k to everyone would require major restructuring of taxes, but it would probably be possible. More than $12k wouldn't.


Regarding #11, universal healthcare would be possible if everyone paid an insurance premium into the common insurance pool, with very few people being subsidized (like in some Euro countries). Agreed, everybody should be insured - by everybody paying an insurance premium into the pool, and only those affected by illness drawing from the pool. That is the only way insurance can work.

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Old 09-05-2019, 06:44 PM
 
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What does Singapore have to do with this? Of course I wouldn’t like Singapore, it’s not the US of A!

Singapore has very strict laws - $1,000 fines for littering, whipping with cane for shoplifting, capital punishment for major violent crime. Not only that the strict laws exist, but they are actually very much enforced, ie, crimes are actually followed by punishment rather than by release, probation, "analysis" and "understanding". Sort of like Rudy Giuliani taken to the absolute extreme.



Per liberal theory cited by Caribny, such strict policing should somehow lead to increased crime. But Singapore in reality has almost no crime. Littering is prohibited and punished, so nobody throws litter on the street. Violent crime is prohibited and punished, so nobody is violent.
 
Old 09-05-2019, 06:45 PM
 
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The recent tax revenue does reflect a huge drop so there is a net negative of well to do taxpayers leaving the state and city. I think many of them didn't fully leave NYC they just re-established their domicile elsewhere and spend more weekends away from nyc.
 
Old 09-05-2019, 07:03 PM
 
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The recent tax revenue does reflect a huge drop so there is a net negative of well to do taxpayers leaving the state and city. I think many of them didn't fully leave NYC they just re-established their domicile elsewhere and spend more weekends away from nyc.

While I did not know that for a fact, I guessed it had to be happening. Nothing else would make sense. In order to establish a new domicile outside NY, you can't just spend more weekends away from NYC, but you truly have to move your entire household elsewhere, and spend less than 180 days per year (ie, less than 6 months) in NYC, while keeping only a bare minimum of belongings at your NYC pied-a-terre (a domicile is defined legally as the place where you keep things that are near and dear to you. I am not kidding, that is actually the official wording of the tax law. Tax legislators are very sentimental :-).

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Old 09-06-2019, 08:35 AM
 
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I would have this city's problems fixed in 10 years

Charge tuition for public school K-12 based on income so that the teachers don't have to beg the parents to bring in supplies and buy those $60 boxes of candy every September

If you make under a certain amount, school's optional

You have to pay for CUNY now so whats the difference if you pay for grade school

Pay for public libraries too, a monthly fee

Public pools, pay a dollar entry fee

And last but not least a major property tax reassessment, with churches no longer fee exempt

Churches are not exempt from paying utility fees so why not property taxes
U rly want to make grayd skool opshonal? How wood kids lern to rite and reed good?

I think that would lead to a whole set of new problems. I like some of your other ideas, I don't think they would fix all the city's problems, but they're certainly better than optional schooling.

This city needs to stop catering to the fringes. We allow the top 5% to get away with everything, and then we put so much money into helping the poorest 5% that the 90% are left high and dry.

I'm sick of these drug addict transplants from middle America who come here because they get better services here than they do in their own states. Make them prove they paid taxes in NY at some point. If they didn't, then they aren't New Yorkers.

I'm tired of seeing hard working families struggling to get by when the homeless are being housed in luxury hotels in Manhattan, and the city is paying exorbitant rates for these rooms.

I'm tired of seeing hard working families struggling to get by when rich families are putting their kids in public schools, and suing the DOE to pay for services because the kid isn't paying attention, while the middle class family who's kid really is on the spectrum can't afford the lawyer to get this done for them.

Remove the Turnstiles in the Subway and make it so that not everyone and their grandmother can beat the fare.

Make E-Verify mandatory.

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Originally Posted by shadypinesma View Post
Since we're all talking about hypothetical leadership in NYC... If I could "rule" NYC as a dictator, I would:

1. Institute a "transaction tax" on all Wall Street transactions. Not sure if it already exists, but if it does then I would increase it.

2. Prosecute white collar criminals and tax fraud severely.

3. Close all loopholes which allow said white collar folk to legally scam the system, and institute a progressive tax regime which taxes the wealthiest of the wealthiest at post-Great Depression era rates.

4. Legalize pot and tax it.

5. Outlaw housing speculation and flipping. Purchase a house? You need to hold it for 2 years before you can re-sell it. Sorry, no gentrification here.

6. Re-institute the Mitchell Lama program.

7. Eliminate most forms of welfare in the city and instead institute Universal Basic Income where every person over the age of 18 makes $40,000 a year. The savings from dismantling welfare would more than pay for it.

8. Institute widespread rent stabilization, capping rent at no more than 30% of income. See number 5 above, as this would go hand in hand with preventing housing speculation and flipping.

9. Increase membership in labor unions but also cap overtime.

10. Legalize prostitution, tax it heavily, monitor it very closely and use the tax to help pay for the revitalization of the transportation system.

11. Universal healthcare.

I think that's it, lol.
I like many of these. Tax prostitution and weed would be great. I disagree with:

5. Maybe a small tax, but anything else is too much.

6. The Housing Lottery is good. Just need to create more for real middle income families.

7. $40,000 is crazy, there's no way it's affordable.

8. We just passed the most meaningful rental laws since rent stabilization was enacted. Your ideas on real estate would destroy the market, and the city.

9. The labor unions make it so hard to get anything done in this city. A few of them have way too much power as it is. We're literally paying $50 to change a light bulb.
 
Old 09-06-2019, 10:17 AM
 
Location: NYC
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U rly want to make grayd skool opshonal? How wood kids lern to rite and reed good?

I think that would lead to a whole set of new problems. I like some of your other ideas, I don't think they would fix all the city's problems, but they're certainly better than optional schooling.

This city needs to stop catering to the fringes. We allow the top 5% to get away with everything, and then we put so much money into helping the poorest 5% that the 90% are left high and dry.

I'm sick of these drug addict transplants from middle America who come here because they get better services here than they do in their own states. Make them prove they paid taxes in NY at some point. If they didn't, then they aren't New Yorkers.

I'm tired of seeing hard working families struggling to get by when the homeless are being housed in luxury hotels in Manhattan, and the city is paying exorbitant rates for these rooms.

I'm tired of seeing hard working families struggling to get by when rich families are putting their kids in public schools, and suing the DOE to pay for services because the kid isn't paying attention, while the middle class family who's kid really is on the spectrum can't afford the lawyer to get this done for them.

Remove the Turnstiles in the Subway and make it so that not everyone and their grandmother can beat the fare.

Make E-Verify mandatory.



I like many of these. Tax prostitution and weed would be great. I disagree with:

5. Maybe a small tax, but anything else is too much.

6. The Housing Lottery is good. Just need to create more for real middle income families.

7. $40,000 is crazy, there's no way it's affordable.

8. We just passed the most meaningful rental laws since rent stabilization was enacted. Your ideas on real estate would destroy the market, and the city.

9. The labor unions make it so hard to get anything done in this city. A few of them have way too much power as it is. We're literally paying $50 to change a light bulb.
All of the problems listed here are the product of progressive policies without fiscal responsibilities. In other countries where there is socialism, it is reinforced with goals and standards. In American you can't set goals or standards if you keep letting people stay on welfare or not finish HS. When you cater to the poor and the uneducated the burden will be on the least vocal group to bear. The rich in America are more mobile than any other societies. If you look at Europe or Asia, the rich are constantly being assaulted for not paying their fair share or being too overpaid. In Asia, some countries if you don't pay your business taxes you'll be thrown in jail or executed. America rarely jails an exec for fraud or tax evasion. Their offshoring of income is fully legal.

In most countries, voting is a requirement for all citizens and you must be verified in order to vote.
 
Old 09-06-2019, 10:40 AM
 
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All of the problems listed here are the product of progressive policies without fiscal responsibilities. In other countries where there is socialism, it is reinforced with goals and standards. In American you can't set goals or standards if you keep letting people stay on welfare or not finish HS. When you cater to the poor and the uneducated the burden will be on the least vocal group to bear. The rich in America are more mobile than any other societies. If you look at Europe or Asia, the rich are constantly being assaulted for not paying their fair share or being too overpaid. In Asia, some countries if you don't pay your business taxes you'll be thrown in jail or executed. America rarely jails an exec for fraud or tax evasion. Their offshoring of income is fully legal.

In most countries, voting is a requirement for all citizens and you must be verified in order to vote.
Have you considered applying for citizenship elsewhere? Or exploring obtaining a work visa in another country? Because the United States of America pretty much invented welfare. We subsidize individuals, corporations, and even other countries. You're getting quite repetitive too.
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