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Old 09-05-2019, 03:25 PM
 
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I would have this city's problems fixed in 10 years

Charge tuition for public school K-12 based on income so that the teachers don't have to beg the parents to bring in supplies and buy those $60 boxes of candy every September

If you make under a certain amount, school's optional


Great and in another 10 years you will have the biggest cadre of criminals who lack the cognitive skills to do anything else. And please don't scream law and order and aggressive policing unless you think that Sao Paulo is a safe place.

 
Old 09-05-2019, 03:53 PM
 
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Great and in another 10 years you will have the biggest cadre of criminals who lack the cognitive skills to do anything else. And please don't scream law and order and aggressive policing unless you think that Sao Paulo is a safe place.
Well done!
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Old 09-05-2019, 04:06 PM
 
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Great and in another 10 years you will have the biggest cadre of criminals who lack the cognitive skills to do anything else. And please don't scream law and order and aggressive policing unless you think that Sao Paulo is a safe place.

Not Sao Paolo (from what I've heard), but definitely Singapore (from what I saw). Singapore is a city-country with possibly the strictest law enforcement on the planet. There is essentially no crime.
 
Old 09-05-2019, 04:31 PM
 
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Not Sao Paolo (from what I've heard), but definitely Singapore (from what I saw). Singapore is a city-country with possibly the strictest law enforcement on the planet. There is essentially no crime.
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and these darned Democratic Politicians ruining this City can sure as heck learn something from it.
 
Old 09-05-2019, 04:37 PM
 
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Well you just guessed wrong. These who are leaving are heavily the lower middle class, too "affluent" for Section 8, despairing of ever being able to buy a home. Those moving in (who aren't immigrants) are educated Millennials who will stick ariund long enough until they have kids and then they will leave.


Immigration into the city is also dropping for a multitude of reasons. High housing costs among them.

How do you know who is leaving and who is coming in? What has been reported is that (1) NYC migrations are relatively small both ways, but the loss is 40,000 people stronger than the gain, (2) there is a mild glut of high-end properties on the market, which take longer than average to get sold, and require some price cutting in order to get sold, and (3) Keith Richards, the guitarist of the Rolling Stones and father of two millenial young women, sold his NYC pied-a-terre (which he had owned for several decades) last year, rather than keeping it for the use of his family.


I had been obsessed with NYC since I was a child. I spent some amazing weekends there in the early-mid 1980s. I always thought I would retire there. But other cities caught up with it culturally, now that the entire world is interconnected. It may be that it used to be the world center of publishing, of printed word and information - but words are not being printed any more, and you get more information than you have time to digest just by turning on your cellphone anywhere in the world. That feeling, that you are in the only place where every information is accessible, is not applicable to NYC any more, and that - along with the 1920s tall gothic apartment buildings on Park Av and West End Ave - was what for me made NYC unique. Buildings are still there, but to me they now look just like enormous tombstones - I know that people who live there are just glued to cell phones, and otherwise not particularly alive.


Crime and cost of living have always been a huge downside of NYC, but it was balanced by the huge upside of the excitement of living in the center of the world. Well, the world no longer has the center, and the downsides are now weighing NYC way down. I did not notice that anyone on this forum is all that excited to be in NYC. Do you wake up in the morning and say, aw man, it's so amazing to be in NYC? Somehow I don't think so :-).
 
Old 09-05-2019, 04:38 PM
 
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Not Sao Paolo (from what I've heard), but definitely Singapore (from what I saw). Singapore is a city-country with possibly the strictest law enforcement on the planet. There is essentially no crime.


The policing that folks like you advocate is more akin to what happens in Sao Paulo. Turn entire communities into combat zones because of the skin color of those who live there. Then humiliate them, arrest them on false claims, and maybe even kill them. That is the Giuliani style of policing that you all so admire. Interesting that crime is much lower now that it was then.


I don't like DeBozo but I will credit his universal pre K. Treating the poor like animals always back fires on society.
 
Old 09-05-2019, 04:41 PM
 
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and these darned Democratic Politicians ruining this City can sure as heck learn something from it.


You know what is interesting is that people who love Trump, loads of angry folks who populate this site, screaming about "black savagery" will NOT like life in Singapore. There its westerners who get harassed by the cops if they don't obey the law. I remember the howls of some when a white American kid got a good paddling in jail.
 
Old 09-05-2019, 04:47 PM
 
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(2) there is a mild glut of high-end properties on the market, -).




You are the one usually screaming about ghetto (black) savages and how miserable they make your life so check yourself about hating NYC. I love this city because it puts people like you in check, pining for the returning of Giuliani.


There is a glut at the top end because there is over building. When one considers that your average NYC resident has household income of around $70k how many people can afford what they want to charge? We have so many waves of gentrification in this city as people are forced to move.


Many people are leaving the city because housing is expensive. Just ask those departing for FL.
 
Old 09-05-2019, 04:55 PM
 
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Since we're all talking about hypothetical leadership in NYC... If I could "rule" NYC as a dictator, I would:

1. Institute a "transaction tax" on all Wall Street transactions. Not sure if it already exists, but if it does then I would increase it.

2. Prosecute white collar criminals and tax fraud severely.

3. Close all loopholes which allow said white collar folk to legally scam the system, and institute a progressive tax regime which taxes the wealthiest of the wealthiest at post-Great Depression era rates.

4. Legalize pot and tax it.

5. Outlaw housing speculation and flipping. Purchase a house? You need to hold it for 2 years before you can re-sell it. Sorry, no gentrification here.

6. Re-institute the Mitchell Lama program.

7. Eliminate most forms of welfare in the city and instead institute Universal Basic Income where every person over the age of 18 makes $40,000 a year. The savings from dismantling welfare would more than pay for it.

8. Institute widespread rent stabilization, capping rent at no more than 30% of income. See number 5 above, as this would go hand in hand with preventing housing speculation and flipping.

9. Increase membership in labor unions but also cap overtime.

10. Legalize prostitution, tax it heavily, monitor it very closely and use the tax to help pay for the revitalization of the transportation system.

11. Universal healthcare.

I think that's it, lol.
 
Old 09-05-2019, 05:19 PM
 
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The policing that folks like you advocate is more akin to what happens in Sao Paulo. Turn entire communities into combat zones because of the skin color of those who live there. Then humiliate them, arrest them on false claims, and maybe even kill them. That is the Giuliani style of policing that you all so admire. Interesting that crime is much lower now that it was then.


I don't like DeBozo but I will credit his universal pre K. Treating the poor like animals always back fires on society.

Entire communities in NYC are already combat zones. They were not turned to combat zones by some conspiracy from outside of these communities to turn them into combat zones - a lot of people in these communities simply decided that it was very cool to form groups that will fight each other with anything from a ballpoint pen to AK-47. I am deeply convinced that the police would much rather deal with rescuing treed cats than being caught in a gang crossfire - I don't believe they risk their lives to arrest criminals because they enjoy risking their lives.


Unfortunately, there is SO MUCH violent behavior in your communities that an occasional solid upright person from that community will be mistaken for a criminal, will get humiliated or will get, shockingly, killed. But I know of only one single truly solid upright person, without any connection with crime, that was killed by mistake while being totally innocent of any wrongdoing (Amadou Diallo). Usually, people are involved in some petty crime, or some actually serious crime, then they resist arrest, and then the police goes way overboard because they (the police) can't figure out how serious the criminal is about shooting back or escaping. Knowing that this is the situation, that police violence can easily escalate in a situation where police does not know what exactly is going on (apart from the fact that someone has done something wrong and is resisting arrest), WHY do people in these neighborhoods have to get involved in crime, any crime at all, and why don't they just give up resisting when they get caught?



Once many years ago, I was leaving a place where I spent many years training, was getting a bit nostalgic, and wanted to take some photos. I wandered into a highly secured part of the building, during the night on a weekend, when the area was deserted, and kept taking photos of a pharmacy corridor, oblivious to the fact that some highly restricted substances were stored there. Well, sure enough, the area was alarmed and monitored, and a security guard appeared (who didn't know me from Adam and Eve, working in a massively large hospital with tens of thousands of employees). So, the guard appeared silently from nowhere, I never noticed him, and something just very forcefully grabbed and twisted my arm behind my back. I was escorted to the security office - but the guard was white in face from fear, I could tell that he was mortified of the little harmless ME (!?!). The confusion was clarified, and the incident was of course resolved, and my first reaction towards that guard was of course annoyance - but thinking back of what I did... well, I did an incredibly stupid thing. How was this guard to know that I was not robbing the hospital pharmacy, and that I was not armed? Had he done something more drastic to me, ie, if he did shoot, I would realistically have had only myself to blame.



The poor should not act like animals if they don't want to provoke other people into treating them like animals.
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