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Old Today, 04:07 PM
 
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You know, the old-school white middle class NYCers from southern Brooklyn, Staten Island, Bensonhurst, Morris Park, etc.

Why are they leaving the city in droves for LI, upstate NY, NJ, PA, NC, AZ?

The Koch-Giuliani-Bloomberg coalition of middle class whites.

Why are some of their children and grandchildren staying in the city?
Your 4th point is sort of contradictory. Weíre talking about a certain group fleeing, then asking why the kids/grandkids are staying behind?

Itís actually the opposite. Mom/dad stay behind(in many cases, house is paid off) and the kids flee to LI/NJ or the other states mentioned.

Prior to the housing boom in the 2000s, property in places like Staten Island and Southern Brooklyn was much more affordable. Nowadays, thatís not the case.
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Whole lot of pages over a very simple phenomenon.

Across the country from Maine to California whites of all socio-economic classes have been having less children for decades. This includes the once highly reproductive Irish, Italian, German, Polish and others of European (usually Catholic) descent that historically had large families.

If that wasn't enough thanks to Ted Kennedy's immigration laws door was pretty much slammed shut against white/Europeans. But opened to Asians, Africans, Latin Americans, Filipinos, and other minorities. Piled onto this NYC is a sanctuary state allowing (if not encouraging) all sorts of illegals to arrive, and set up shop. Asians, Dominicans, and other Latino-Hispanics.....

Thus it comes down to a numbers game. Baby boomers and their parents generations are retiring if not dying off. When it comes time to sell their homes there aren't enough whites who want to live in certain areas, and or otherwise can't be bothered. So things change.

The whites who are taking back certain formerly working class areas of Brooklyn and Queens are largely displacing minorities, and in any case usually are transplants from a higher socio-economic background than the whites who lived in these areas generations ago.

Many white "working class" persons pack up and move because they can, and after crunching the numbers realize they are better off elsewhere. OTOH many minority and some others receive a sweet deal in terms of various bennies by remaining in city, so they do.

Woodlawn and across the border in Yonkers still has a pretty high percentage of "workign class" Irish, but their former areas such as Inwood, west side of Manhattan, and even SI not so much.
Whites are taking back Astoria and Ridgewood and Sunnyside, which had many working class whites living there
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Old Today, 04:20 PM
 
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Whites are taking back Astoria and Ridgewood and Sunnyside, which had many working class whites living there
All 3 are probably less white than 15 years ago
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Old Today, 04:44 PM
 
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Most of America is a better place for these people then NYC, and cheaper too.
amen

plus far, far safer
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