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Pertussis is pretty much preventable if everyone gets immunized. The little babies who can't be fully immunized can be protected if the people around them are immunized.
Geeze, how sad is that! You'd think the USA would have a better vaccination rate than Mexico.
Well, look at how Mexico does it. No twenty page informed consents. They just find the kids that haven't been vaccinated and do it. That would not go over well in the USA!
you are only assuming that these babies caught this from unvaccinated children, you could be completely WRONG, vaccinated children still get pertussis, in fact , epidemics in fully vaccinated populations are a rule rather than an exception.
Vaccinated children get pertussis at much lower rates than the unvaccinated. They also get milder cases. Any epidemics in fully vaccinated populations hit the unvaccinated far harder as they are unprotected from illness.
Vaccinated children get pertussis at much lower rates than the unvaccinated. They also get milder cases. Any epidemics in fully vaccinated populations hit the unvaccinated far harder as they are unprotected from illness.
Absolutely! As one of my epidemiologist friends used to say, "you have to look at the denominator", that being the number of immunized kids.
It is speculative but very likely, imo. As a mother who will have a newborn in the near future I will take very simple additional precautions because even if the vaccine has not yet mutated here in the US, it's still not 100% effective. I can't control who gets the vaccine and I have no way of knowing who has immunity and who doesn't. I'm guessing most adults don't get this vaccine and are no longer immune. All that I can do is take precautions for my family and my child. To me that's just common sense and seems like a better use of my energy then pointing fingers at celebs and non-vaccinators.
i think you have the right idea Dorothy, you know pertussis is not as deadly as the c.d.c. makes it out to be . I personally know of 2 children that had it, and thogh it was inconveniant for the mothers , their children are now immune . babies can have 3 dtp shots and if they catch it, the common reason given is that they haven't been fully vaccinated(5 shots).
I think waiting untill your child is older and the immune system is stronger is the way to go for all shots.Unvaccinated babies don't die of sids.Be carefull; and keep a close eye on your newborn when you have it, the hospital might try to vaccinate your newborn with hep b vaccine.A travesty and medical assalt on a newborns life.
i think you have the right idea Dorothy, you know pertussis is not as deadly as the c.d.c. makes it out to be . I personally know of 2 children that had it, and thogh it was inconveniant for the mothers , their children are now immune . babies can have 3 dtp shots and if they catch it, the common reason given is that they haven't been fully vaccinated(5 shots).
I think waiting untill your child is older and the immune system is stronger is the way to go for all shots.Unvaccinated babies don't die of sids.Be carefull; and keep a close eye on your newborn when you have it, the hospital might try to vaccinate your newborn with hep b vaccine.A travesty and medical assalt on a newborns life.
Nine otherwise healthy babies have died of whooping cough in California this year. I am sure it was more than "inconvenient" to the parents of those children.
It is a myth that you need to wait until an infant is older and has a "stronger" immune system to give vaccines. Babies are exposed to many more antigens in the air and through food than are contained in all the recommended doses of vaccines.
Vaccines have nothing to do with SIDS. Unvaccinated babies can die from SIDS, and there is no evidence vaccines increase its risk. Putting babies to sleep on their backs significantly decreases the risk of SIDS. See here for info on the Back to Sleep campaign: Questions and Answers for Professionals on Infant Sleeping Position and SIDS (http://www.nichd.nih.gov/sids/sids_qa.cfm - broken link) and here on SIDS and vaccines: CDC - Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS) and Vaccines - Vaccine Safety and the reson for giving the hepatitis vaccine to newborns: The Hepatitis B Vaccine for Newborns
If Mom is sure she doesn't have hepatitis B, it is safe to delay the first dose of vaccine, but there is no physiologic reason based on maturity of the infant's immune system to do so.
i think you have the right idea Dorothy, you know pertussis is not as deadly as the c.d.c. makes it out to be . I personally know of 2 children that had it, and thogh it was inconveniant for the mothers , their children are now immune . babies can have 3 dtp shots and if they catch it, the common reason given is that they haven't been fully vaccinated(5 shots).
I think waiting untill your child is older and the immune system is stronger is the way to go for all shots.Unvaccinated babies don't die of sids.Be carefull; and keep a close eye on your newborn when you have it, the hospital might try to vaccinate your newborn with hep b vaccine.A travesty and medical assalt on a newborns life.
Pertussis is a highly contagious and extremely ugly little disease. A newborn with it has all kinds of serious risks including a one in one hundred risk of dying!
The only treatment for a baby with pertusissis is an IV and lots of prayers. You'd damned well better vaccinate a baby against it.
Your other assertions are also completely inaccurate as well. You shouldn't wait to give shots as younger children and even younger babies are much more vulnerable to such diseases than older children and adults.
Unvaccinated babies most certainly DO die of SIDS. A description of the problem has been around since the Greeks and Romans.
The Hep B vaccine is given to babies because younger children are most at risk. If you or I get we'll most likely shrug it off. If a baby gets it they'll most likely get liver cancer.
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i think you have the right idea Dorothy, you know pertussis is not as deadly as the c.d.c. makes it out to be . I personally know of 2 children that had it, and thogh it was inconveniant for the mothers , their children are now immune . babies can have 3 dtp shots and if they catch it, the common reason given is that they haven't been fully vaccinated(5 shots).
I think waiting untill your child is older and the immune system is stronger is the way to go for all shots.Unvaccinated babies don't die of sids.Be carefull; and keep a close eye on your newborn when you have it, the hospital might try to vaccinate your newborn with hep b vaccine.A travesty and medical assalt on a newborns life.
Amazing how much misinformation contained in one short paragraph...
Pertussis IS deadly to infants....
There is absolutely NO reason to wait on giving vaccinations beyond the recommended ages
There is NO link between vaccination and SIDShttp://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Concerns/sids_faq.html
The hospital WILL try to vaccinate your baby against Hep B...with good reason if you had any knowledge on the subject....hardly an assault by the way....
i think you have the right idea Dorothy, you know pertussis is not as deadly as the c.d.c. makes it out to be . I personally know of 2 children that had it, and thogh it was inconveniant for the mothers , their children are now immune . babies can have 3 dtp shots and if they catch it, the common reason given is that they haven't been fully vaccinated(5 shots).
I think waiting untill your child is older and the immune system is stronger is the way to go for all shots.Unvaccinated babies don't die of sids.Be carefull; and keep a close eye on your newborn when you have it, the hospital might try to vaccinate your newborn with hep b vaccine.A travesty and medical assalt on a newborns life.
Actually, some SIDS studies show that unvaccinated babies are more likely to die of SIDS.
The studies showing no increased risk for SIDS with the DTP immunizations actually showed that fully immunized infants had a lower risk for SIDS. Although no study has yet explained this relationship, it is likely indirectly related to other risk factors like socioeconomic status (SES)-------babies fully immunized likely have good access to health care and higher SES than infants not up to date on immunizations, and may be more likely to be full term, etc.
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