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Old 08-14-2012, 02:34 PM
 
Location: North America
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I don't think you all are familiar with culture in the rural South. It's very different down here than it is on the West Coast or the Northeast or even more urban locations in the South.

I never said gays should go back in the closet for the reasons stated, but what I am saying is certain things have been lost in the cultural transformation of the past 40 years. Down here, the last thing anybody wants is to be perceived as gay and will go out of their way to put on a hyper-masculine image. Its quite common to have your sexuality questioned in high school if you don't play football or basketball, or aren't married by the age of 21, or heaven forbid aren't into driving to Memphis to spend $600 at a strip club on a weekend.

40 years ago was much, much worse if you actually were gay but society as a whole wasn't hung up on it like it is now so guys had a little more freedom in certain areas.
Um yeah i have plenty of male friends/cousins from virginia and north carolina, and absolutely none of them are like that or are suffering from those problems. I think perhaps the crowds you personally hang out with might be your issue though.
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Old 08-14-2012, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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Um yeah i have plenty of male friends/cousins from virginia and north carolina, and absolutely none of them are like that or are suffering from those problems. I think perhaps the crowds you personally hang out with might be your issue though.
I just moved from Charlotte, North Carolina and it wasn't near as bad there. Here in Arkansas, everything I've described is true. You don't know rural Southern culture until you've been to rural Arkansas, Mississippi, Louisiana, or far east Texas.
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Old 08-14-2012, 02:39 PM
 
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I just moved from Charlotte, North Carolina and it wasn't near as bad there. Here in Arkansas, everything I've described is true. You don't know rural Southern culture until you've been to rural Arkansas, Mississippi, Louisiana, or far east Texas.
Rightttttttttt
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Old 08-14-2012, 02:45 PM
 
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I just moved from Charlotte, North Carolina and it wasn't near as bad there. Here in Arkansas, everything I've described is true. You don't know rural Southern culture until you've been to rural Arkansas, Mississippi, Louisiana, or far east Texas.
I get that. That's why, and I don't know how, we have to somehow alter this stupid perception that being gay is undesirable and something to be ashamed of.

Maybe parents supporting their children is a good way to start.
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Old 08-14-2012, 03:40 PM
 
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You don't know rural Southern culture until you've been to rural Arkansas,
Been there.

I've even been to Eureka Springs. Though I'm still not sure why you're complaining about how hard it is to be a straight male in the rural South because my guess is life for a gay male is more difficult. I think that's akin to the argument that Title IX is wrong because it "takes away" money from traditionally male sports and spends it on *gasp* women athletes.

And FinsterRufus just made a brilliant post.

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Old 08-14-2012, 03:51 PM
 
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If you want to hear something chilling go here Identity | StoryCorps and go down to about the 10th story, "No one but my mother got the mail." When I this driving to work on NPR and heard this I almost had to pull over.
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Old 08-14-2012, 04:09 PM
 
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Well said, bchris02. One of the many unintended consequences of the homosexualist movement has been the decline of straight male friendships. Another has been the rise of hyper-masculinity and the marginalization of ordinary men as you describe.
What is the "homosexualist movement"?
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Old 08-14-2012, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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What is the "homosexualist movement"?
Okay, I just Googled it. It's the ongoing fantasies homophobes have about gay sex, particularly when having a movement.
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Old 08-14-2012, 04:21 PM
 
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If you want to hear something chilling go here Identity | StoryCorps and go down to about the 10th story, "No one but my mother got the mail." When I this driving to work on NPR and heard this I almost had to pull over.
I had heard that before. But hearing it again elicited the same sense of nausea, anxiety and rage as the first time.
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Old 08-14-2012, 04:21 PM
 
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Yes, and this is the ONLY socialization straight men are allowed to have. Want to go to the symphony with your buddy? That's pretty gay and at least in my area you'll be lucky if you don't lose some teeth simply for asking them. Want to go out to eat? You better like Mickey D's because if you ask them to go anywhere nice questions will be asked. One time I lost a friend due to asking him to go have sushi, because guys don't go to that type of restaurant with other guys.
You need new friends.
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