What if a teenager refuses to see a doctor? (method, legally, have to tell)
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Although people often start college at the age of 18, it is not uncommon for people to start college before that. When I was in college I knew many other college students who were 17. That being said, a pediatrician can see college students who are under 18, but once somebody reaches the age of 18 a pediatrician can't see them. The law is the law and in the medical world there are guidelines that have to be followed. Otherwise dentists would be doing heart surgery.
But, that isn't the law. Its a guideline. Would it be strange for a 40 year old to visit a pediatrician? Of course, but I don't think that the DR would lose his license. Dentist's can't do heart surgery because they aren't physicians. They didn't go to medical school. Cardiologists, Psychiatrists, Geriatricians, IM, Orthopedists, ENTs, Neurologists, all went to medical school. From there they go into their various specialties, and while you have to go to a heart surgeon for a bypass, That doesn't mean that any of the above specialists couldn't diagnose hypertension.
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Originally Posted by ToddSteel
And if they don't cooperate about medical decisions, than what?
BTW, if you're 18 you're not a minor for most stuff, except alcohol.
If you are under 18, and don't cooperate, you can be compelled to cooperate; literally forced to undergo the operation. To the end that the Police and DCS will drag you in to cooperate. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/10/ny...rapy.html?_r=0
Even at 21 there are patient's typically with chronic childhood diseases or congenital anomalies that will continue to see a pediatrician indefinitely as the pediatrician is typically the expert in these areas not an internist.
Agreed. Advances in the care of certain childhood illnesses result in children living a lot longer than previously, and pediatricians are often familiar with treating said conditions.
But, that isn't the law. Its a guideline. Would it be strange for a 40 year old to visit a pediatrician? Of course, but I don't think that the DR would lose his license. Dentist's can't do heart surgery because they aren't physicians. They didn't go to medical school. Cardiologists, Psychiatrists, Geriatricians, IM, Orthopedists, ENTs, Neurologists, all went to medical school. From there they go into their various specialties, and while you have to go to a heart surgeon for a bypass, That doesn't mean that any of the above specialists couldn't diagnose hypertension.
Than how about dermatologists or eye doctors? They're doctors. They go to medical school and all yet they can't perform heart surgery. Why? Because they aren't qualified to do so. Specific medical procedures such as heart surgery requires specific training and such specific training must be undertaken in order to be qualified and certified to do such stuff. Its something a cardiologist would be trained to do but not a dermatologist or an eye doctor. By the same idea, pediatricians are trained to see infants and small children, not adults. An 18 year old body is quite different than an infant's or small child's body so it is not proper for an 18 year old to see a pediatrician and in fact, a person should stop seeing a pediatrician well before they turn 18. I would say at the oldest, it should be around the age of 12 at which a person sees a pediatrician.
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Originally Posted by JONOV
If you are under 18, and don't cooperate, you can be compelled to cooperate; literally forced to undergo the operation. To the end that the Police and DCS will drag you in to cooperate. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/10/ny...rapy.html?_r=0
In the situation described in the link you provided, the girl had cancer. If somebody under 18 has a life threatening condition such as cancer than the police can get involved. In this case, she had cancer and the government decided she needed chemo and not even her parents could override that. However, I seriously doubt the police will get involved if a teenager under 18 refuses to see a specific doctor for a standard physical. Physicals might be required for stuff such as school but they're not required by law and a teenager is certainly not required by law to see specific doctors. A teenager might be required to get a physical for school but they might decide that any doctor they see for a physical has to meet certain criteria and the doctor that their parents are sending them to does not meet that criteria and so they simply won't cooperate about seeing that particular doctor and I seriously doubt the police will get involved in a case like that.
But that wouldn't cover people who are 18 and older. You reach adolescence well before you turn 18. Once you reach 18 you would have to see an adult doctor. Guidelines are guidelines.
You would not HAVE to though there would be no reason NOT to.
Than how about dermatologists or eye doctors? They're doctors. They go to medical school and all yet they can't perform heart surgery. Why? Because they aren't qualified to do so. Specific medical procedures such as heart surgery requires specific training and such specific training must be undertaken in order to be qualified and certified to do such stuff.
ADDITIONAL training is not at the expense of general medical training. A heart surgeon is qualified to do everything that a General Practicioner (or Pediatrician) does, but the GP is not qualified to perform surgeries.
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Originally Posted by ToddSteel
Its something a cardiologist would be trained to do but not a dermatologist or an eye doctor. By the same idea, pediatricians are trained to see infants and small children, not adults. An 18 year old body is quite different than an infant's or small child's body so it is not proper for an 18 year old to see a pediatrician and in fact, a person should stop seeing a pediatrician well before they turn 18. I would say at the oldest, it should be around the age of 12 at which a person sees a pediatrician.
Well, that's your opinion, but it isn't the opinion of the medical establishment, and again, you're wrong and don't know what you're talking about. Pediatric training in the US encompasses a residency where they will see patients up to the age of 21. At 12, the kid isn't done growing, and a pediatrician is perfectly appropriate. Pediatricians see patients up through College age as a matter of routine, and are trained to do so. Being qualified to perform heart surgery does not mean the Dr is only qualified to do heart surgeries, it means he is qualified to perform heart surgeries in addition to his more routine medical qualifications.
You don't seem to realize that medicine doesn't exist in narrow boxes. An 18 year old could be prescribed ADHD medications from a General Practitioner, her Pediatrician, or a Psychiatrist. Performing an actual surgical procedure requires additional training. A pediatrician is BETTER for kids to see, but it doesn't mean that they MUST be treated by a pediatrician.
Although people often start college at the age of 18, it is not uncommon for people to start college before that. When I was in college I knew many other college students who were 17. That being said, a pediatrician can see college students who are under 18, but once somebody reaches the age of 18 a pediatrician can't see them. The law is the law and in the medical world there are guidelines that have to be followed. Otherwise dentists would be doing heart surgery.
I'm surprised at all of the people here who have never heard of school physicals (to the point where they would say "I've never heard of that, so THAT's NOT REAL!" lol....do you understand that that varies from state-to-state?). I actually thought that it was the norm, not the exception.
When I went to school in Minnesota, we required one on entry into Kindergarten, 7th Grade, and 4th Grade, plus all of the usual shots (Kindergarten and 7th Grade, I believe because the kids were moving to new school buildings? That might have been the district).
Anyway, it is-- to my knowledge-- state law, not school district policy.
I'm surprised at all of the people here who have never heard of school physicals (to the point where they would say "I've never heard of that, so THAT's NOT REAL!" lol....do you understand that that varies from state-to-state?). I actually thought that it was the norm, not the exception.
When I went to school in Minnesota, we required one on entry into Kindergarten, 7th Grade, and 4th Grade, plus all of the usual shots (Kindergarten and 7th Grade, I believe because the kids were moving to new school buildings? That might have been the district).
Anyway, it is-- to my knowledge-- state law, not school district policy.
In Colorado, all that is required is the immunization record. However, to play high school sports, a physical done within 365 days of the end of the season is required.
Last edited by Katarina Witt; 09-18-2015 at 01:02 PM..
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