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Old 06-18-2015, 07:54 PM
 
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Again this is not just about overweight people.

Don't force your kid to apologize!!! If he wants to and he is sincere, it won't have the same hurtful impact as a kid shoved by a mother, making a big scene about it and being forced to do so.
It takes time to learn what you are suggesting. Kids aren't born knowing the art of the apology.

Who suggested making a scene? I picture a sincere, face to face show of contriteness. I can see how screaming "sorry lady" would be upsetting.
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Old 06-18-2015, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Denver 'burbs
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Again this is not just about overweight people.

Don't force your kid to apologize!!! If he wants to and he is sincere, it won't have the same hurtful impact as a kid shoved by a mother, making a big scene about it and being forced to do so.
A big scene?? What on earth are you imagining? A parent dragging an insolent and resistent child by the ear across the waterpark while everyone watches? Or a parent after a quiet conversation with her child and walking over, hat in hand, head hanging in shame, offering a sincere apology? I certainly would expect the latter. If your experience is the former, there's not much I can say to that.
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Old 06-18-2015, 08:04 PM
 
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A big scene?? What on earth are you imagining? A parent dragging an insolent and resistent child by the ear across the waterpark while everyone watches? Or a parent after a quiet conversation with her child and walking over, hat in hand, head hanging in shame, offering a sincere apology? I certainly would expect the latter. If your experience is the former, there's not much I can say to that.
Yes, the first scene and yes, I've seen it quite a bit.

Its just adds insult to injury.
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Old 06-18-2015, 08:08 PM
 
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Yes, the first scene and yes, I've seen it quite a bit.

Its just adds insult to injury.
Well frankly that's an entirely different problem. The apology itself is not.
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Old 06-18-2015, 08:09 PM
 
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No one is there to "be your child's object lesson". That does not relieve us of teaching and expecting manners.

The two of you do not speak for all overweight people - you can only speak for yourselves. Again - How would anyone know whether you (or anyone else) would or wouldn't want an apology? I'd still err on the side of offering the apology.
This.

"I'm sorry I was rude to you M'am/Sir."

If hearing that is upsetting to the person receiving the apology..... whatever. My job as a parent was to instill manners and make sure my child wasn't that child.
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Old 06-18-2015, 08:18 PM
 
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Well frankly that's an entirely different problem. The apology itself is not.
Actually it is. If you weren't FORCING the child to apologize then this wouldn't be an issue. Let the child come to it organically. Contrite people are quiet people. Quiet people don't make a scene and further embarrass the hurt person.
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Old 06-18-2015, 08:21 PM
 
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This.

"I'm sorry I was rude to you M'am/Sir."

If hearing that is upsetting to the person receiving the apology..... whatever. My job as a parent was to instill manners and make sure my child wasn't that child.
LOL Gotta love the hypocrisy! "I don't CARE how the victim feels! Its all about what I think MY child should do and what I need to do as a parent!" Whatever indeed.
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Old 06-18-2015, 08:22 PM
 
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Actually it is. If you weren't FORCING the child to apologize then this wouldn't be an issue. Let the child come to it organically. Contrite people are quiet people. Quiet people don't make a scene and further embarrass the hurt person.
You are the one who is depicting a "scene" not me. I clearly explained that there would be no "scene" in my example. The "scene" is the problem, not the apology.
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Old 06-18-2015, 08:23 PM
 
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LOL Gotta love the hypocrisy! "I don't CARE how the victim feels! Its all about what I think MY child should do and what I need to do as a parent!" Whatever indeed.
Yep. My priority was raising kids who were polite and didn't mouth off in public.

Hang me from the yardarm because I succeeded.
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Old 06-18-2015, 08:24 PM
 
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LOL Gotta love the hypocrisy! "I don't CARE how the victim feels! Its all about what I think MY child should do and what I need to do as a parent!" Whatever indeed.
Please do share how we are to know what response the victim would prefer. Understanding that not everyone feels as you do.
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