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Old 07-20-2016, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Ft Myers, FL
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... Your leaving after waiting 5-10min. would have taught her such basic life lessons.

....
What could go wrong?

"How did it go, Sweetheart?"

"The guy never even showed."

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Old 07-21-2016, 12:04 AM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Steve McDonald wrote:

The young woman may have never associated with anyone before, except for those her own age. She doesn't know yet about the rules for adult behavior. Think about how difficult it may be for someone who hires her. Not only will she require job-training, but life-training, as well. That's why part-time jobs are so important for high-school students. I think it's an essential part of their upbringing.
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Impossible.
Unless her parents never had friends over, she never interacted with teachers and counselors at school, she was never part of an athletic team, etc.
Treating adults with respect usually starts with the "Yes, sir, No, ma'am" of meeting your friends' parents. Even my 4 year old knows this.
It's quite possible that some young people may have had all the opportunities that you mention for interactions with older people, but yet they may not have been personal or meaningful enough, to have had much effect. And some families don't have friends that visit, some are ignored by teachers and counselors and some have never been on an athletic team or had any organized activity outside of home.
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Old 07-21-2016, 05:30 AM
 
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Not knowing exactly what happened, but I would presume that the Mom is pressuring the daughter to do something she really doesnt care about. Its not like the daughter called up the guy herself and asked for a meeting. For all we know, Mommy is doing all the pushing here, and little special snowflake doesnt care to go along with the program.
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Old 07-21-2016, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Richmond VA
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It does not matter. The daughter blew him off for 45 minutes then the Mom complained about how much time he gave her. They both suck.


But the daughter did not say, No, Mom, I am not going to do that. She went to breakfast and showed up 45 minutes late, complaining that she forgot her resume.
Yes, clearly evidence of dysfunction on both parts.

Keep in mind, this mother is the kind of person who would say what she said to a virtual stranger after he failed to do as she expected, then hung up on him.

How on earth would we expect this child to exercise better judgement if she has a mother like that? I pity her. She has a long row to hoe.

How healthy could these people possibly be?

But I still don't think this is evidence that the young lady is 'entitled'. She didn't seem to give any indication that she expected anything from anybody.

Just because a kid has a tiger/helicopter mom doesn't mean she is a 'special snowflake' anywhere but her mother's mind. Let's not get our cliches too tangled up here!
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Old 07-22-2016, 10:01 AM
 
Location: here
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I think the young lady should just get married. Why does she need to work at all? Maybe she wasn't college material. Obviously, she's not employment material.

Not everybody can do everything. I haven't seen too many young ladies who couldn't do well being housewives. That's all some of them are capable of.

I know, sounds hopelessly old fashioned. But some things from the old days just worked out better, with less hassle for all parties involved. You can put lipstick on a pig, but you still can't expect it to fly.
"Hopelessly old fashioned " were not exactly the words that came to my mind.
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Old 07-22-2016, 10:33 AM
 
Location: New Yawk
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I think the young lady should just get married. Why does she need to work at all? Maybe she wasn't college material. Obviously, she's not employment material.

Not everybody can do everything. I haven't seen too many young ladies who couldn't do well being housewives. That's all some of them are capable of.

I know, sounds hopelessly old fashioned. But some things from the old days just worked out better, with less hassle for all parties involved. You can put lipstick on a pig, but you still can't expect it to fly.

My inlaws said the same thing about their daughter once upon a time. She is now 33 years old, living at home, no education beyond high school, bounced around menial part-time jobs for while but hasn't worked at all in 9 years. She no longer takes care of her appearance so at this point she is, shall we say, past her prime. Can handle some light housecleaning, but cannot prepare anything more complex than microwave popcorn and smoothies, and is emotionally-stunted by sitting around the house all day. Her father cannot retire because he still supports her, and is now kicking himself for setting the bar so low. Her mother still maintains that she "just needs to meet a guy"... which at this point, being a very competitive area in all respects, is essentially a suggestion that she flat-back for room and board. She could have potentially done something with her life, had they pushed and encouraged her more. But instead they were stuck in the old-school mentality of waiting around for a husband who will keep her home, with no thought given to what she might have to offer in a relationship.
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Old 07-22-2016, 06:37 PM
 
Location: 89434
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if you never insist that your child have some kind of job in high school or college, then you are guaranteeing that they'll be missing some important experience when it comes time to enter the real world.
It's difficult these days to get a job. Lots of young kids whine that they can't get a job. Just go to the Work and Employment section. You'll find a bunch of posters who complains they've been applying to hundreds or so applications, interview for a few jobs and they still don't have a job. Anyone who believes the job market is great listens to a bunch of idiots who skews statistics and doesn't tell the real truth.
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Old 07-22-2016, 07:18 PM
 
Location: here
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It doesn't matter if the mom was trying to force the girl into it. There is no excuse for standing someone up who is doing you a favor. If the girl had other plans, she should have called the OP herself (she should have done that anyway) and rescheduled or cancelled. There is no excuse for the mom's behavior. She should have been apologizing to the OP for her daughter's behavior.
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Old 07-22-2016, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Queens, NY
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It's difficult these days to get a job. Lots of young kids whine that they can't get a job. Just go to the Work and Employment section. You'll find a bunch of posters who complains they've been applying to hundreds or so applications, interview for a few jobs and they still don't have a job. Anyone who believes the job market is great listens to a bunch of idiots who skews statistics and doesn't tell the real truth.
Thank you.

It's so ridiculously competitive nowadays. Another thing that doesn't help is that all the resume filling is now done online with the complete death and soul-sucking questionnaire section. Even my Father has come around in recent years and agrees that you're lucky to even get one job offer after you graduate.

You'd be able to sometimes just walk into a store and see the manager, then he'd perhaps offer you a job right on the spot. Nowadays? That's just not possible.

This is just one of many reasons why I decided to pursue having my own online business.
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Old 07-22-2016, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Moscow
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Thank you.

It's so ridiculously competitive nowadays. Another thing that doesn't help is that all the resume filling is now done online with the complete death and soul-sucking questionnaire section. Even my Father has come around in recent years and agrees that you're lucky to even get one job offer after you graduate.

You'd be able to sometimes just walk into a store and see the manager, then he'd perhaps offer you a job right on the spot. Nowadays? That's just not possible.

This is just one of many reasons why I decided to pursue having my own online business.

It's not possible? I'm glad my friend didn't know that! Just happened to him earlier this week.
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