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10-29-2008, 10:33 AM
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According to the latest Franklin & Marshall poll released today, Obama leads McCain 51-39. Oddly, the only part of the state where McCain is ahead is the southwestern. Obama leads by one point in central PA.
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10-29-2008, 11:49 AM
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Just click your heels together 3 times and say....
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Originally Posted by toobusytoday
Just go to FactCheck.org, it give spin free information about each candidate.
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Thank you for the suggestion, toobusytoday. I took a quick look, but I will really need to spend some time there before next Tuesday.
I do see that there is a distinct difference between FactCheck.org and FactCheck.com. Dot org is the one set up by the Annenburgs.
I got a phone call from Obama's people last night. When I explained to the young lady that I am very concerned about how capital gains may impact me after saving all my life, she didn't seem to have a clue what I was talking about.
The fact is that I'm socially very liberal. With my age and situation I've had to be financially conservative. I worked special ed for many years.....low end of the pay scale. Not a lot of $$ there.  I was a member of PSEA for those years. I was widowed at 49, got the kids raised, and managed to survive. I just want to be allowed to hang on to what I scraped together.
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10-29-2008, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by rockky
Thank you for the suggestion, toobusytoday. I took a quick look, but I will really need to spend some time there before next Tuesday.
I do see that there is a distinct difference between FactCheck.org and FactCheck.com. Dot org is the one set up by the Annenburgs.
I got a phone call from Obama's people last night. When I explained to the young lady that I am very concerned about how capital gains may impact me after saving all my life, she didn't seem to have a clue what I was talking about.
The fact is that I'm socially very liberal. With my age and situation I've had to be financially conservative. I worked special ed for many years.....low end of the pay scale. Not a lot of $$ there.  I was a member of PSEA for those years. I was widowed at 49, got the kids raised, and managed to survive. I just want to be allowed to hang on to what I scraped together.
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Don't take my word for it but he has promised raising capital gains to 20%. Details vary literally by campaign stops, however. He said he will not raise taxes above $250K but the other day I heard $200K and Biden was talking about $150K too. They take it upon themselves to define who has "too much". That is the scary part.
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10-29-2008, 01:26 PM
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Just click your heels together 3 times and say....
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Originally Posted by HappyRider
Don't take my word for it but he has promised raising capital gains to 20%. Details vary literally by campaign stops, however. He said he will not raise taxes above $250K but the other day I heard $200K and Biden was talking about $150K too. They take it upon themselves to define who has "too much". That is the scary part.
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The $250K/$200K/$150K...whatever (you understand my point) is income tax. If I need to switch savings in a lump sum to pay for medical costs or some other emergency, I will pay the highest rate. Right? I wouldn't be hitting up my stash to pay for a back scratcher as someone remarked about 'rich' people.
What if I need to sell my home in order to raise emergency funds? Then the capital gains tax zaps me. Right? I've heard that number go as high as 28%.
They don't care that I've tried to plan and prepare for possible circumstances that I am unable to control. They just see the $$.
My late husband's medical bills were nearly $500,000.00 for three weeks of care. He lived a frugal, healthy life style. We found out that his situation was caused by a genetic marker that no one had any way of knowing about. It taught me that we have very little control in life, and to make the best of what choices we have.
His insurance carrier, big BC/BS, denied much of the coverage. I was told that they were not paying any more. I asked for names. I asked for supervisors. I was cut off, 'dropped' calls, direct hangups. He worked for a self-insured major utility. The company tired to help. Nothing. It was hell any way I turned.
So, now, health care. If the government is going to provide so much free health care why would any employer offer anything? With my experience...............well, I want to do whatever I can to take care of myself. Those people who are supposed to be honest, aren't.
Yep. It is scary to me. How can someone else really know who gets and who doesn't? Somehow I see some 'getting' that doesn't make sense to me.
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10-29-2008, 09:37 PM
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Space-Time, Elements, and Electricity
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brilliant tactical move
While Obama is on about a dozen networks hanging out with the white Wal-Mart people that are supposed to fear him, McCain is on Larry King admitting that Barack isn't really a socialist.
Once again, how does finishing near the bottom of a class of nearly a thousand in the Naval Acadamy and then getting shot down after Daddy gets you a flight gig qualify you for the presidency?

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10-29-2008, 09:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rockky
What if I need to sell my home in order to raise emergency funds? Then the capital gains tax zaps me. Right? I've heard that number go as high as 28%.
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Up to $500,000 for a married couple, $250, 000 for an individual, on the sale of a home is exempt from taxation as long as you have lived in the home as your principal residence for 2 out of ten past 5 years. You could also be exempt due to "unforeseen circumstances" like job loss or family medical emergency.
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10-29-2008, 10:02 PM
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I am not politically correct
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Originally Posted by creepsinc
While Obama is on about a dozen networks hanging out with the white Wal-Mart people that are supposed to fear him, McCain is on Larry King admitting that Barack isn't really a socialist.
Once again, how does finishing near the bottom of a class of nearly a thousand in the Naval Acadamy and then getting shot down after Daddy gets you a flight gig qualify you for the presidency?

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How does being a Senator for only 3 years qualify Obama for POTUS? And in Chicago he has done nothing, nothing. Yes, let's tax the hell out of businesses and corporations so that more close up shop, and more move even more jobs over seas!  And if they don't, they will just pass the costs along to the consumer and employees.
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10-29-2008, 10:46 PM
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Space-Time, Elements, and Electricity
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Originally Posted by dugdogmaster
How does being a Senator for only 3 years qualify Obama for POTUS? And in Chicago he has done nothing, nothing. Yes, let's tax the hell out of businesses and corporations so that more close up shop, and more move even more jobs over seas!  And if they don't, they will just pass the costs along to the consumer and employees.
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Propaganda works.
Edit- If the Mummy and the Airhead had anything going on, they wouldn't rely on fear tactics. That's all they've got.
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10-29-2008, 11:05 PM
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I am not politically correct
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Originally Posted by creepsinc
Propaganda works.
Edit- If the Mummy and the Airhead had anything going on, they wouldn't rely on fear tactics. That's all they've got.
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Propaganda? Come on Creep, what I stated is fact. It's exactly what Obama plans on doing if he gets in office. And that's more than likely what will happen to business. It's simple math, not propaganda.
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10-30-2008, 12:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dugdogmaster
How does being a Senator for only 3 years qualify Obama for POTUS? And in Chicago he has done nothing, nothing. Yes, let's tax the hell out of businesses and corporations so that more close up shop, and more move even more jobs over seas!  And if they don't, they will just pass the costs along to the consumer and employees.
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It's been clear with the 2 years obama has been running for president, he is a media creation. Nothing more. Looking into his background one finds nothing of true substance or creation or leadership or executive decisions or legislative initiative. Nothing at all. People have popped up with some minor things but he's never had to be in a leadership role before. I can't find anything of substance. And there is a lot of his past he or others continue to cover up.
McCain we at least know who he is and what he has done and the type of person he is. I know what I am voting for with McCain. I know he will successfully conclude the two wars, give tax incentives for people to achieve and veto pork barrel spending unlike Bush. I also know I disagree with him on many things, but still I know exactly what I will be getting and overall I am pleased. You can't say that about Obama. He has no history of leadership or "REAL" world experience outside his left wing circle in Chicago. For someone like him to be in reach of the presidency it's pretty scary stuff.
Liberals can't seem to grasp that if the guvment imposes punitive taxes or tariffs on businesses, large and small, many will pack up for overseas, scale back or sell out or even shut down. If obama imposes his capital gains and income tax increases on businesses and successful people in this economy, you will see a flurry of asset dumping and selling and the economy will sink into a Great Depression. Hoover and FDR did it in the 1930's. They strangled businesses and financially successful people with punitive tariffs and taxes and it killed the economy which realistically didn't fully recover until the 1950's.
Let's look at guvment programs in existance. Fannie and Freddie, collapsed the banking and housing industries. Social Security, a mismanaged, underfunded by trillions organization. Prescription drug benefit for seniors, total disaster. Medicare, category 5 hurricane disaster. Etc. Now you want obama to come in and expand these disasters further and sink us more into debt and tax us to death when small businesses are hurting? Sorry folks the money and ideas don't add up. If many of those guvment programs above were private institutions, people would be in jail for fraud.
To me I want the guvment off my back. I don't need a pinhead bureaucrat or pseudo intellectual telling me how to manage my life.
I found this interview interesting. Mark Levin interviewed the kooky woman that wants to fold your 401k's into the social security system and take it out of your control! He uses her own stupid logic to defeat her argument. These are types of liberal pinhead that want to control your life. And yes the House is discussing this idea.
The interview is about 10 minutes.
http://marklevinfan.com/?p=3699
Essentially what they want is your 401k funds to pay off social security for now. It's a way to confiscate your money under the guise of good thoughts and feelings. This is what will be happening under obama. Any move to do this and you will see 401ks being liquidated by people and the stock market will crash.
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